Movie Stars buried in Arlington (Part 1)

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greetings and welcome to the talk with

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History Podcast I am your host Scott

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here with my wife and historian Jen

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hello

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on this podcast we talk about history's

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continuing impact on us and our personal

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journey through YouTube as we continue

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to explore record and share our history

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walks with you

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but now before we get into our main

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topic today Jan I want to lead off with

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our some of our five star reviews of the

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week

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so we did get a couple of five star

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reviews now folks listening may not

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realize this but it's been probably

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about a month we took about a month off

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around Thanksgiving yeah I think it's

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appropriate with doing this video too on

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this subject because I don't know if

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people realize that you are active duty

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military

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and I was that's how we met and so we

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moved very often and because of that

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movement when holidays come around

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sometimes it's really just inclusive of

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us to make the holidays happen for our

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family

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so we have to sometimes take a break

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to make sure that uh you know things at

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home are being taken care of like a

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Thanksgiving holiday for yeah absolutely

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so so the holidays get busy for us with

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uh being being military but in that

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month we got two five-star reviews uh

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one from someone I've known since I was

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very young and one from someone I

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believe that we've met most recently so

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the the first five star review is from

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patty1835. she said about the Halloween

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episode she said so fun and interesting

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maybe next Halloween you can do an

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episode on the famous radio broadcast of

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the War of the Worlds which I think

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would be a very interesting topic yes

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that show was so realistic and it cost

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mass panic you have an alien invasion

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which I believe was part of why it's

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it's so Infamous the second five star

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review is from Doug

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mcel52 I believe we know who this is and

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it was about the I Love Lucy episode he

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said I Love Lucy too thank you for

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another insightful episode I learned so

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much about Lucy and Desi that I did not

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know so thank you to those who are

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leaving reviews we encourage anybody

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else listening to if you have an apple

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podcast uh the Apple podcast app leave

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us a five-star review in there if not

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you can reach out to us other other

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places

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um and also don't forget to check out

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our other podcast the history Buzz

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where we interview folks while chatting

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about history over a couple of drinks

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and we let the conversation wander where

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it may

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thank you

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now there are a lot of cemeteries with

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famous people buried in them and we've

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covered a small portion of them

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and we've discovered that there's so

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much history and a lifetime of stories

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to be told but

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I will venture to say that none of these

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sacred places hold the Common Ground

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among all Americans that Arlington

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National Cemetery does

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for our walk with history YouTube

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subscribers this video really needs no

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introduction as it's our most popular

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video and as of recording this podcast

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it has around 53 000 views so Jen why

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don't you tell any of our listeners who

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haven't seen this video yet how

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Arlington came about for us

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so this video is on Arlington National

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Cemetery and for us it was just really

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important for me

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to do this video because it all started

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with Maureen O'Hara

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I was wanting to see what her grave

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looked like and I knew she was buried in

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Arlington because she had been married

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to a brigadier general in the Air Force

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and I had looked on YouTube to see if

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anyone had been to her grave and no one

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had been to her grave yeah and and for

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the for the audience too if you step

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back if you've listened to some of our

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past episodes this may have come up but

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Jen likes Maureen O'Hara the old movie I

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like Classic Movies she loves the

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classic movies but largely because of

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John Wayne yes I'm a big John Wayne fan

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Jan you were a huge John Wayne fan

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largely influenced by your father and

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you know John Wayne is John Wayne almost

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everybody knows John yes not as many

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people know Maureen O'Hara that at least

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not I would I'll say in my generation

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sure but if you're a huge John Wayne fan

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yeah Maureen O'Hara actually did quite a

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few movies with him yeah she was I mean

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he was her favorite co-star she says

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like and he loved working with her as

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well

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um made lots of movies with John Ford

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and they're known for that famous movie

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The Quiet Man together

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um most people remember Maureen O'Hara

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from Miracle on 34th Street she plays

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the mother she's also in The Parent Trap

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the original

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and she's in that as well so most people

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will remember her if they don't know her

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within the John Wayne so so that's

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really where the Genesis of yeah hey

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we're we're near yes we were going to be

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in DC yes we were going to visit family

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yes and so we brought we we made a point

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to say let's do a day in Arlington

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and we thought oh we'll get this done

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with the family it'll be so easy we'll

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get in there

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six or six other people yeah am i

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counting that right no five six yeah

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with us five of us so eleven six others

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so eleven all together right and no

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first of all what you need to know about

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Arlington is um you can't drive in

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Arlington you can take the tram you can

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pay the ticket the money to take the

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tram and the tram has a very

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um

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localized route it'll take you to the

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Tomb of the Unknown it'll take you

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around some more famous Graves but it's

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not going to go off Route and so if you

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want to I mean Arlington is

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639 Acres there's 400 000 people buried

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there so if you want to like see

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something in particular like us you've

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got to get ready to do some walking you

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have to be ready ahead of time and

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that's the one thing right and holding

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true to to what we're trying to do on

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this podcast of talking a little bit

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about behind the scenes right we're

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doing this with our family yes you know

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visiting we're kind of making the

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YouTube channel work at the same time as

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trying to carry out life yes we were

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like oh yeah we'll be fine doing it with

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the whole family and and we've we come

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to find out like man this place is

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massive we gotta take trams you know

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we've got kids and your mom and US

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walking around and figuring all this

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stuff out so we decided we did like one

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or two graves and then we said let's

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just do this you and I well my mom had

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offered to watch the kids for us the day

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we said let's we'll come back to

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Arlington and we'll do it so what was

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the first what's the first grave we're

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going to talk about uh well I want to

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give a little background about Arlington

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first and then get more into the graves

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we're going to talk about but um this

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first video was very important on people

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who were influencing that I thought were

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big movie influencers and who influenced

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me in my military career so that's kind

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of the twofold of what it is but I also

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give some history on Arlington because

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sometimes people don't know the whole

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story and so Arlington Cemetery

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was really Robert E Lee's home before

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the Civil War he had married Marianne

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custis Lee who was the great

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granddaughter of Martha Washington with

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her first husband Daniel custis and when

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she marries George Washington he

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basically adopts her children and

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then of course his he he adopts her

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children and then they inherit his land

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he his grandson has the money to buy

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Arlington build Arlington then leaves it

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to his daughter and that's just so

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George Washington's grandson yes okay

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and that's who he leaves it to his

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daughter who's Marianne custis who

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marries Robert E Lee

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so that's kind of how this all starts

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right and so then

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the Civil War happens and he leaves

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right away he lives in uh 1961 in in May

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and she's told pretty quickly that the

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union is going to come and start taking

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property

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outside of DC just to occupy it at this

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time it's not even thinking of a

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cemetery so she buries a lot of her

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possessions in the yard

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and takes a lot of her possessions with

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her and then within a month the troops

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the union troops have taken Arlington by

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May 24th

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so

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it's on May 14th that one of her

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enslaved women women

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um Selena Gray

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takes a lot of things that are of George

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Washington's possessions and one of them

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is the tent and we talk about the 10th

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that's at the Revolutionary War Museum

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we have that because of Selena gray so

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she had some forethought to save a lot

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of heirlooms and that we we have heard a

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thing for that

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so then what happens is there's a army

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quartermaster named Megs who goes to

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school with Lee and he joins the union

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and he's so mad that Lee has gone with

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the Confederacy that he's put in charge

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of finding land for federal cemeteries

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because

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by this time in the war it's been three

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years they don't they didn't think it

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was going to go on for this long they

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basically have started filling up all

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the federal cemeteries in D.C with Civil

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War dead

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so this is 1964. this is three years

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later and he's like Arlington is prime

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location

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he's gonna Stick it to his old buddy

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yeah he's like really mad and I'll tell

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you why how he does it too he buries the

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first body in the garden because he

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knows that that's where Marianne custis

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Lee's favorite spot is so the first

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person buried in Arlington is William

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Henry Cushman and he's 19 years old he

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dies in the measles and we've talked

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about this before that most people in

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the civil war will die from disease and

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he buries him right in the garden man

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that's like this so that was such an

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interesting fact to me of like this

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here's this guy who's holding The Grudge

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again someone that like he knew for a

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long time right respected respected and

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all that stuff and it was so mad that he

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joined the other side he's like okay

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this is this is my way to get to get

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back at him I don't want you coming back

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here I don't think you deserve this I

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don't think you deserve to be in this

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country and so much so that I'm gonna

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make it so

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your favorite spots will be taken over

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I'm gonna start bearing bodies in your

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yard yep and that's basically what

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happened so that's how Arlington becomes

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a National Cemetery

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so just to give some backgrounds just so

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people understand where where the word

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Arlington comes from it's it's actually

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um why is there a house in Arlington

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National City right yeah it looks like a

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big home it's called Arlington House yes

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that's where they lived yes it was it

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was

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um Mary Ann custis Lee's father who

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builds the home uh names it for

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Arlington glassdier England because

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that's where their ancestral family is

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from yeah and if you've never been to

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Arlington National Cemetery if you get

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up to Arlington House which is I think

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the highest point yeah you can look down

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Cemetery you can see the Washington

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Monument you can see all over DC I mean

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it's a it's a you talk about prime

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location it's a beautiful view it's a

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beautiful spot

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um and not only because of the nowadays

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setting but you can see the mall you can

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see all that stuff so it's it's pretty

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neat being there yeah so

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so that's why

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um

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Arlington National Cemetery has become

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it became a cemetery and that's why most

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of the bodies that are there are going

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to be from Civil War on

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so you're not going to have older

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military conflicts buried there

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now there are older bodies there I think

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some of the

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family of the Lee family of the custis

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family are buried there because they had

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died there and also anybody who was

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enslaved by the leaves could be buried

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there as well so there's a whole section

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to the enslaved of their family that is

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actual is actually buried there as well

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but so that is how Arlington now is the

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national cemetery of the United States

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and I when we went there one of the

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first people I wanted to find was Kara

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holtgreen and Carol holtgreen was

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important to me because as a midshipman

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of Penn State I had read her book call

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sign Revlon now Carol holgreen was

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buried much more recently yes she

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because she dies in 1994. she's the

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first Naval aviator

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um fighter pilot female

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so for me it was very inspirational

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she's the first female to qualify in an

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F-14

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and what happens is she she actually

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crashes her F-14 on the USS Abraham

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Lincoln off the coast of San Diego

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it's it's one of those things that she

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stalls out and as

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they're ejecting her co-pilot her nfo is

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fine but just like I think it was like

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point

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one second the plane had rolled to such

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a degree that she ejects into the ocean

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and she dies instantly yeah there was

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there was a cool you actually can find

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right as I was making the video I could

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find some news Clips because when

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there's usually there's a first of

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anybody doing anything in the military

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she was interviewing some interviews and

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some coverage and we I found out through

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you that her call sign was Revlon yes

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because she wore makeup she wore makeup

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um and so I thought that was really

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interesting and it was cool to to go and

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see that yeah and there was there's a

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lot of controversy around her crash

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right people like and you can imagine 60

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Minutes at a whole special or women how

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did she get where she was yeah

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you know all sorts all sorts of stuff

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and it's that's gonna

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stuff like that for those who aren't

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familiar with the military like we are

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stuff like that's going to come up

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regardless of how amazing you are or how

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bad you are exactly

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um so but it was cool just to go because

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she was a huge influencer yes and I had

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never been there so for me it was neat

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you'll see me actually like salute her

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grave in the video because I'm just very

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inspired by her

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the other grave we could so because we

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go to Marina O'Hara

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I was looking up other people kind of

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related to her movies and I had found

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that Lee Marvin was buried in Arlington

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and I loved Lee Marvin I really only had

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known him from The Man Who Shot Liberty

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Valance and that is an amazing John

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Wayne movie Jimmy Stewart John Wayne Lee

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Marvin black and white John John Ford

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directed it it's one of those movies

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that really makes you think about

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there is a time when you do need someone

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to fight yeah there is a time when it's

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not going to be enough to just be smart

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and know the words and know the law

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there is going to be somebody sometime

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who has to actually fight so so if if

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people don't know that movie you'd give

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us like a one or two sentence overview

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you have John Wayne old Gunslinger who's

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trying to make it on the frontier and

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you have Jimmy Stewart who comes into

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town who's a lawyer and he wants to

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bring the law to like a lawless

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a rural area out in the west somewhere

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that hasn't even found statehood yet Lee

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Marvin plays the antagonist the huge

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antagonist he's Liberty Valance he's

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like this bad guy who just as you can

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imagine the old west just comes in and

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terrorizes everybody and people just pay

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him off or do whatever it takes to get

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him away do I am I remembering right

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that he did he get nominated for an

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award for this not for this but he went

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to the movie In general the movie in

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general yes um best picture yeah and

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because it's shot in black and white

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John Ford makes a point to shoot it in

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black and white even though this is way

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past color you know um but because he

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wants that kind of grittiness

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but you have in the end Jimmy Stewart is

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trying to prove a point that he can take

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down this guy with just being smart he

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can take down this guy just being you

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know using books and stuff and and

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Liberty Balance is having none of it

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challenges him to a shootout yeah and in

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the I mean you have to watch it I want

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to give it away the end has a pretty

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good twist yeah and the one thing I will

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say and then we'll get into the kind of

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gravesite itself

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um again as someone who was not familiar

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with this movie and who's not as huge

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fan as old movies as you are right

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um but it's making this video if you're

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listening to this podcast and you've

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never seen some of these old movies I

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would encourage you to see if you can

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find them streaming somewhere or rent it

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for a night because these old movies the

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one thing that I realized is I've

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covered folks like Jimmy Stewart and

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John Wayne and some of these these

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actors right

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um

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they can't cover up a movie with special

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effects with you know music that's super

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catchy you know or whatever like this is

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just acting in its kind of golden age

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yes and the acting that I see even in

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just finding clips for these movies

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absolutely blows me away yes I mean he

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was fantastic and he went on to have a

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very long and and storied Hollywood

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career absolutely I always say there's

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few people that can hold their own

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against John Wayne as a and Jimmy

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Stewart and Jimmy Stewart as an

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antagonist yeah and Lee Marvin does it

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yeah he and I haven't seen anyone who

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can really pull it off quite like he

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does in this movie yeah yeah he he was

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fantastic and I was just again this

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happens to me multiple times I guess I

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should stop being surprised I'm looking

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up these old Super Famous super you know

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decorated actors

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um and actresses and just seeing how

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amazing they are yeah so that's a movie

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that I encourage folks to look up

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because Lee Marvin's gravesite was

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pretty cool it was pretty cool and you

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know his so

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so the section and then it gives you the

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grave number and Lee Marvin's I got to

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the section I'm looking to get the

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numbers and they're not in order and I'm

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looking all around I'm looking all

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around and then there's a very famous

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grave in that section of Joe Lewis which

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doesn't look like the other white Graves

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it's actually a different color and it's

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bigger and Lee Marvin's is actually

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right beside Joe Lewis yeah so I was

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like oh there it is not in sequential

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order at all

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um so that so it was easy to find in

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that regard but hard to find because

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it's not in the order it should be

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but he was a Marine

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and that's why he's in Arlington

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National Cemetery he was a Marine in

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World War II he is in the Battle of

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Saipan on June 18 1944 and he gets

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machine gun fire that severs his sciatic

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nerve basically he's shot in the

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buttocks like uh Forrest Gump and he

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spends a year in a military hospital so

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he gets the purple heart as well and

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it's after that that he decides to go

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into acting and he gets best actor in

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1965. that's the clip we use in the in

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the video for Cat Ballou which is also

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like a western and he plays a dual

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character so he's playing two different

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parts and I think people were just

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really impressed with his acting and

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that's I mean he wins best actor which

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is pretty big deal uh he's actually

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named in honor of Robert E Lee is he

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really yeah I don't think I knew that

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it's like his first cousin

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twice removed or third removed or

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something like that but he dies of a

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heart attack in 1987. he's 63 years old

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and he's buried in section 7A

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so that's the same section as uh Joe

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Lewis yeah yeah again uh a decorated he

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said marine marine decorate a marine who

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decides to like oh yeah I'm gonna go

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into acting and just then knocks it out

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of the park in acting yeah and people I

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mean people like Lee Marvin for like the

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dirty dozen he's known for a lot of

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different things yeah there's some old

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war movies uh that he's in that that are

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actually more famous than the man who

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shot Elizabeth yeah but that's what I

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know him yeah yeah

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um one of the graves that we go to there

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that's what's interesting about

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Arlington to kind of go off is you don't

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really allowed to put a lot of things

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there they're allowed to stay permanent

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so they don't really allow Flags there

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they only allow flags on Memorial Day

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and they'll put a flag on every grave

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but um They Don't Really allow

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stationary flowers

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they usually remove those things they

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don't really allow I think they allow

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wreaths for Christmas but one person

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who's allowed to have flowers all the

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time is Audie Murphy

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really yes so that's another he's the

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only one that's allowed yes I think

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sometimes and maybe some the John F

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Kennedy that's just because of how

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decorated he was because of how

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decorated okay so so tell us who Audie

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Murphy is so Audie Murphy is actually

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the second most visited visited

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gravesite behind JFK wow yeah I don't

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think I knew that and his is I mean it's

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it's there's lots of stuff there but

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it's small it's it's not like so like I

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told you Joe Lewis will have a different

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grave it's bigger other people might

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have different Graves I think Ruth Bader

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Ginsburg has like a big black Marvel

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grave Audie Murphy just has a white

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pillar like most of the other Graves

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there and he is considered the most

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decorated soldier of World War II

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now there's some debate about that after

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I had said that in the video people had

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some debate about that so it is a couple

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other people but he's one of them or if

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not

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he's known for uh they've actually made

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a

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walkway to his grave since it's so

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visited it's on the tram tour it'll have

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flowers there you'll be able to pick it

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out what's interesting about his grave

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though is he's a Medal of Honor

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recipient and there was a time when they

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replaced all of the metal on a recipient

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Graves with gold leaf and he he had told

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his family

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that he doesn't want anything special

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about his grave so when they asked his

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family if they could replace it they

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said no so even it says Medal of Honor

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It Is Not Gold leafed or anything he

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said he didn't want to stand out yeah he

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did some movie stuff too right so yeah

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so he he actually was in like 47 films

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he had a 21-year movie career but

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what is interesting about Audie Murphy

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is he

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lies about his age and he's too thin to

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get into the Navy and the Air Force and

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the Marine Corps he's very like Captain

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America yeah and then he's finally

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accepted by the Army that's crazy it's

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crazy and so then what he does like his

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most famous

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when he when he receives the Medal of

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Honor it's in 1945 he holds back six

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tanks on his own he tells his company to

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to take cover and he holds off these six

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tanks for an hour and he does this I

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think he had just turned 19 years old oh

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my gosh can you imagine just turned 19

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years old and he does this and this is

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what this is how he um he's awarded the

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Medal of Honor but he has tons of I mean

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he has I think I go into all the awards

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he has received in the military and

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they're all on his not all of them are

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on this the stone but a bunch of them uh

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but yeah he so he has this movie career

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he comes back he processes his PTSD

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through movies he does like The Red

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Badge of Courage he does to Helen Back

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and those are military movies

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um I think to hell and back is about his

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about himself it's about his story but

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most of his movies are Westerns

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that's kind of what he does a lot of and

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he

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dies in a plane crash unfortunately in

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1971 right before he turns 46 years old

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so yeah and like I said he uh trying to

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think he was filming his last film it's

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called the time for dying so it's

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actually very ominous

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but um yeah that's Audie Murphy like

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he's like I said most people know him

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from movies most people know him

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actually as the most decorated soldier

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of World War II and he's again the

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second most visited his grave it's kind

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of convenient I use that word Loosely

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because it's right across from the um

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two in the Unknown Soldier yeah his was

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much easier to find but again it's it's

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one of the like I think it's literally

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probably marked as one of like the

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popular Graves that's on like visitor

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stuff there right it's the [ __ ] stops

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there yes

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um it's pointed out it's it's pointed

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out it's it's very clear it's a lot of

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people and and again my own ignorance

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here I had no idea who he was I had I

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had no clue my mom like people mostly

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know from the movies yeah because like

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he made a movie about his life so people

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know yeah he played himself played

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himself so people know him from the

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movies

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but

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I'd say right down the hill was it kind

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of down the hill from the Tomb of the

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Unknown was Maureen O'Hara or was she

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down the hill from Arlington House

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no it was down the hill from a too many

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unknown soldier it was in that area yes

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so mourin O'Hara is who we came to see

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yeah and when I even got there it looked

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like no one even knew she was there I

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wanted to like yell out to people this

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is Maureen O'Hara like to me it was like

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how do people not know she's right here

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now her stone is a little bigger right

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and she's not it's not I mean it's it's

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hers but she shares it with her husband

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her husband's first and she's buried

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there because because of him right so if

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you are married or a child

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and I think a child not quite of age you

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can be buried at Arlington Cemetery so

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the Arlington Cemetery is not just open

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for service members it's open for

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service members and her husband was what

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like a two or three star he was a

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brigadier general in the Air Force and

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and he was actually her second husband

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her second and his third yeah and

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um they met in 1971 he dies in 1978 he's

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69 when he dies so he was probably what

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62

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62 when they got married yeah I mean

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yeah you're doing the math I trust you

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yeah a public math so I mean they marry

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late in life yeah right but she says

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he's the love of her life and she will

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forever miss him and it's just a merry

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after him

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and no I think you're right I think he's

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her third

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and I think

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she's his third I think it's both the

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thirds and didn't you say I think you

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say this in the video too that like she

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always said that he was who John Wayne

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yes pretended to be so she always said

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that she said I married the man that

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John Wayne pretended to be in movies

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yeah because John Wayne will do like you

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know

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Where Eagles Fly the roughest of the

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toughness yeah like he'll play these

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aviators Right Where Eagles Dare To Fly

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and like those those war movies right

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right and he's playing like these really

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tough heroic men and she said I married

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that man he I married the real deal and

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so um

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and and so finding her gray there she

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has one of those bigger marble grave and

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she's married under Fitzsimmons Blair so

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she's married she's she's buried under

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Marine Fitzsimmons Blair and then it

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says smaller Merino Hera so you have to

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kind of be looking and if you try to

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look her up on the Arlington site it

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won't pop up under Merino hair you have

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to look up Marine Blair because that's

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his name Charles Blair

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uh so we we visited there we left a rock

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I talked a little bit about John Wayne

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and her and I talked a little bit about

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Lucille Ball because she was her and

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Lucille Ball had kind of started making

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movies at the same time kind of B movies

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and she claims to have been there that

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when Lucy met Desi for the first time

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and

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you know we just kind of go into John

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Ford

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and the other movies she made like I I'm

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a huge fan of

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Tyrone Power she had a movie with Tyrone

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Power she made a movie with Jimmy

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Stewart like she was this huge actress

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that was a great leading lady she played

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in a lot of roles opposite a strong

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leading man and she could hold her own

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and that's why John Wayne has that

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favorite famous saying she's the

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greatest guy he ever knew yeah

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that's a great quote because she could

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hold her own yeah and that's what he

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um when she would be interviewed she

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about her like she was willing willing

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honored to find her grave I think I left

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her heart rock

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and she was very important so I'm she

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she's and I think to your to your credit

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I think she's the reason that that video

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kind of took off I do too right plus I

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think I did pretty good job making it so

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I think you did too although some people

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get upset a little bit but those uh

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cut-ins but yeah you know people have

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opinions about you know but when we're

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trying to keep it interesting and so I

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was actually looking again interesting

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behind the scenes here I was looking and

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it's been shown to it's been almost a

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million people oh my gosh yeah well I

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think it's a great video

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to do those types of people in Arlington

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those those Movie Makers those those

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history makers that are in the media

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because most people don't realize that

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they're there so yeah and an Impressions

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it's not like it's near in your direct

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feed it could be one of the 15 different

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thumbnails on your on your YouTube home

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screen or something like that but I just

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thought that was cool like yeah because

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it's it's one of our more popular videos

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um

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so the one last thing I wanted to talk

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about real quick was um the Tomb of the

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Unknown yeah

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that opened it was dedicated November 11

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1921.

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um the first person in turn there was a

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soldier from World War one right and so

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they just had that hundred year

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anniversary yeah that was some month or

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two ago yeah so November 11th yeah and

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Veterans Day yeah and that was the first

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time they allowed the public to get

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close to the tomb and lay flowers and

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stuff I think it's like the this was the

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first time ever in a hundred years yeah

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the first it's always been guarded yeah

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it's always been guarded so I thought

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that was really neat and again for for

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anyone listening who doesn't isn't

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familiar with the Tomb of the Unknown

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Soldier this

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is essentially more a monument yes right

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a memorial yes all of those people all

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of those soldiers that are killed in

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action that can never be brought home

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that are missing in action you know Etc

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and all that stuff and so the army

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actually has a dedicated unit that

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guards it 24 7 365 days a year rain snow

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doesn't matter it doesn't matter what

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you walk in there all night long all day

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long and it's actually incredibly

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prestigious for

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folks in the Army to go through this

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unit

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and Incredibly difficult to to get

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qualified to be screened to come in and

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do it and they take their job seriously

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super you cannot like be talking during

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Changing of the Guard there you cannot I

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mean they'll yell at you and it I've

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seen like random videos of people like

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trying to run up and trying to you know

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either mess with them or try to touch a

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thing they don't [ __ ] around yeah they

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don't they don't and I think I think you

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have to adhere to certain guidelines if

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you're on that in that group you can't

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drink right I think you're not allowed

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you have to always present yourself in a

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prestigious

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way yeah like I think there are these

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rules if you're going to be a part of

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the two million Soldier guard you have

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to take a take it upon yourself to

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uphold the standard for military wise I

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mean it's kind of like you're regarding

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some of the most hallowed yeah grounds

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yes that that you can that you can guard

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right this this symbol of all of those

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soldiers who who pay the ultimate price

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yes for the country that never came home

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that were never identified that you know

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they

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sell where they did yes and they gave

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their life and and they stayed there

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yeah because nobody was able to bring

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them home and that's you know when

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people go to Arlington that's one of the

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things people want to see is The

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Changing of the Guard it's really neat

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because those guys I mean they practice

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Ad nauseam and they are I mean to a t

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perfect yeah what they do they're

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Precision it's incredible it's like kind

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of like Ethan eye like the Marine Corps

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ethani like the drill stuff yes but just

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with something much more solemn yes yeah

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yeah so if you ever get a chance that's

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the one of the things that tram will

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take you to it's one of the things you

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get to see I think they change every

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it's like hour I thought it was 20

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minutes

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it's like it's it's every hour it's not

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every 20 minutes if somebody knows

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tell us yeah hit us up on Twitter I

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don't think it's an hour they're not

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going to make you march for an hour back

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and forth then they're doing this uh 24

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hours a day yeah it's about every 20

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minutes I don't think it's every hour

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we'll follow up in the next episode yeah

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we'll do we'll have a little uh podcast

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follow up in the next episode

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um but now they have women who are on

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that guard as well I think she was out

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there when we were she was out there

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when we were there yeah she was

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inspecting yeah because I think when

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they

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switch they not they not only switch the

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guard they have their inspector come out

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and then switch them you know so but

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that so we're gonna do more episodes

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with more of the people we saw because

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we want to give this time and yeah we

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don't want to do an hour-long podcast

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um that's not what talk with history is

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it's supposed to be kind of bite size

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um and so as you can tell by the stories

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of those that we covered just today and

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and how much there is to talk about

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we've all really barely scratched the

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surface of what we personally have

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covered at Arlington

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so you can look forward to the next part

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of our talk with history Arlington

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series next week bright and early Monday

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morning we'll continue doing this and

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there'll probably be multiple podcasts

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covering Arlington because there's so

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much detail and so many good stories

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there yes um it's going to take us a few

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episodes to cover everything because

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we've been back twice

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