Flashdance, Fashion, and Feminism - The 1980s

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<p>if you love 80s movies music and the</p>
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<p>all those things I just mentioned</p>
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<p>so it's a natural fit that we're going</p>
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<p>to talk about one of the biggest movies</p>
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<p>1983.10 what is the movie we're talking</p>
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<p>about today the last dance flash dance</p>
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<p>and why are we talking about Flash Dance</p>
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<p>well Flashdance had a huge impact on me</p>
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<p>as a young girl especially growing up</p>
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<p>in the 80s so much so that when I had an</p>
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<p>answering machine when people still had</p>
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<p>those and you could make your own</p>
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<p>recording part of it was that song just</p>
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<p>a steel town girl on a Saturday night</p>
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<p>looking for the time of her life that</p>
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<p>was on my answering machine yeah because</p>
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<p>it was so fitting for Pittsburgh girl</p>
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<p>and having fun because the movie</p>
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<p>Flashdance it takes place in Pittsburgh</p>
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<p>it takes place in Pittsburgh and it's</p>
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<p>really great in the 80s with the steel</p>
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<p>industry I mean she's a welder It just</p>
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<p>fits in with everything that's it is</p>
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<p>it's like the classic 80s movie it hits</p>
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<p>It's got good music it's it's it's so</p>
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<p>great and blue collar yeah right so we</p>
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<p>go in the video</p>
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<p>we go to a lot of those filming</p>
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<p>locations and for me that was a dream</p>
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<p>come true yeah that was that was super</p>
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<p>we try to recreate some of those we</p>
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<p>tried to recreate some of the shots like</p>
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<p>her biking to work you know across the</p>
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<p>of it had continuity because they're</p>
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<p>really looking for really great</p>
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<p>locations and scene settings in</p>
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<p>Pittsburgh and I talk about how she's</p>
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<p>not biking she's not living over here I</p>
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<p>think you said like she had the reason</p>
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<p>she has such great legs is because she's</p>
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<p>biking all over the entire city I love</p>
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<p>the city and like the Steep Pittsburgh</p>
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<p>Hills right and at one point one of the</p>
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<p>great scenes that they're going down the</p>
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<p>hill and it's right beside the hospital</p>
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<p>Allegheny hospital so you see a nurse</p>
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<p>walking up in the scene yeah and I tell</p>
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<p>you that's because she's right beside</p>
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<p>the hospital yeah and if you're if you</p>
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<p>haven't seen that episode go to our</p>
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<p>YouTube channel and look up and just</p>
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<p>search for Flashdance</p>
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<p>um but but we actually so we show the</p>
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<p>yeah so I so I so not only are you kind</p>
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<p>of standing in the spot where they</p>
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<p>filmed it but I'm trying to recreate as</p>
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<p>best I can with my amateur you know</p>
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<p>equipment and and technique to really</p>
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<p>recreate those shots it was just a dream</p>
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<p>come true for me it was super fun for a</p>
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<p>girl who always loved that movie yeah</p>
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<p>and we go to the Carnegie Museum where</p>
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<p>she it's supposed to be the ballet</p>
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<p>school in the movie and she gets</p>
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<p>for ballet school she runs away she runs</p>
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<p>out yeah and so I kind of like recreate</p>
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<p>her running out and she's running out of</p>
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<p>the gallery basically of the museum yeah</p>
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<p>and again we try to recreate the shot so</p>
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<p>the move the shot in the movie is her</p>
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<p>running kind of that's the second floor</p>
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<p>and then it's like she must have to</p>
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<p>backtrack and then she's running the</p>
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<p>same</p>
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<p>way in the same distance on the bottom</p>
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<p>floor yeah yeah basically just to get a</p>
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<p>really good shot of that whole Gallery</p>
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<p>yeah but we recreate all that stuff</p>
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<p>right you're walking down down the thing</p>
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<p>I'm trying to do it where it's yeah the</p>
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<p>pillars are going by I'm doing the shot</p>
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<p>there yeah so it was and even like uh</p>
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<p>when she rides her bike up to the</p>
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<p>Carnegie Museum yes right in front so we</p>
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<p>talk about that's where she sees the</p>
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<p>ballet and she's leaving with Hannah and</p>
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<p>she sees uh Mick or she sees Nick with</p>
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<p>his ex-wife oh yeah you know so she's in</p>
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<p>front of the museum there so we talk</p>
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<p>about the front of the museum and the</p>
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<p>statues that are out there they use the</p>
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<p>where she does her the side of the</p>
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<p>museum is where she does her dance</p>
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<p>practice Yeah right so they use that</p>
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<p>whole museum for a bunch of different</p>
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<p>things uh but it was really fun we go to</p>
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<p>like Hannah's house yeah which is still</p>
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<p>there I mean it's still like the house</p>
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<p>it's I mean it's it's awesome we've</p>
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<p>barely changed yeah there there's no</p>
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<p>Portico anymore and there's no Ivy yep</p>
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<p>on the side of the building we ride the</p>
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<p>Duquesne Incline that was neat that was</p>
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<p>neat and we talked about her riding the</p>
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<p>incline with her bicycle and if you're</p>
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<p>not familiar with Pittsburgh again let</p>
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<p>me let me step back and paint the</p>
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<p>picture so the decane incline and</p>
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<p>correct me if I'm wrong Jen but let me</p>
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<p>see if I I've actually learned something</p>
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<p>while we were out there filming they</p>
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<p>used to use it for the coal miners and</p>
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<p>they would transport all these materials</p>
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<p>up this super Steep Hill so if again if</p>
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<p>you're not if you've never been to</p>
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<p>Pittsburgh or certain parts of</p>
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<p>Pennsylvania</p>
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<p>very common for super steep hills there</p>
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<p>which is Nightmare driving in the</p>
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<p>wintertime</p>
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<p>um super steep hills super sharp turns</p>
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<p>so they're The Duquesne Incline it was</p>
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<p>actually originally to help transport</p>
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<p>materials and equipment and this that</p>
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<p>and the other up this super steep hill</p>
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<p>and then it basically turned into a</p>
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<p>tourist attraction yeah and then people</p>
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<p>would take it home after work and things</p>
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<p>like that so it was used for that as</p>
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<p>well and so most people</p>
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<p>Pittsburgh is on Three Rivers it's</p>
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<p>connected there's</p>
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<p>there's Bridges they call it the city of</p>
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<p>bridges because there's so many bridges</p>
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<p>that go across the rivers that kind of</p>
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<p>connect the whole city together yeah so</p>
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<p>you have the Monongahela</p>
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<p>the Allegheny in the Ohio</p>
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<p>and those are the three rivers that make</p>
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<p>up the and we used to have Three Rivers</p>
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<p>Stadium there and so all of that area is</p>
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<p>Pittsburgh all around those rivers and</p>
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<p>all around those bridges and it's very</p>
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<p>Steep and it's very hilly and The</p>
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<p>Duquesne Incline it has a beautiful view</p>
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<p>it's where we shoot the very last um</p>
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<p>scene yeah at the top of it if you ever</p>
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<p>go to visit Pittsburgh I mean you should</p>
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<p>go do it it's it's pretty neat it's not</p>
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<p>like some fast ride it's very slow you</p>
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<p>know in the movie she actually uses it</p>
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<p>and she takes her bicycle she uses it to</p>
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<p>take her bicycle she's going to see</p>
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<p>Hannah she's ridden all she's written</p>
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<p>all over the city all over the city up</p>
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<p>these Hills and around the corners and</p>
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<p>she doesn't want to ride a little bit</p>
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<p>further you know up the hill but I get</p>
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<p>it</p>
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<p>so for a young girl to see this movie</p>
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<p>right Alex is supposed to be 18. she's a</p>
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<p>welder her dream is to be in the ballet</p>
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<p>but she's uh she's a welder by day and</p>
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<p>then she dances at night and she she</p>
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<p>dances in a place where it's not</p>
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<p>nudity yeah so it's not quite a strip</p>
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<p>club that's quite a gentleman's club</p>
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<p>yeah she dances and but that's kind of</p>
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<p>her way to kind of keep her dream alive</p>
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<p>yeah to practice her love dancing on</p>
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<p>stage with like the super uber famous</p>
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<p>you know scene with the water scene you</p>
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<p>know she drops of water on herself yes</p>
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<p>like the bucket of water on herself and</p>
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<p>dances around like and that scene I mean</p>
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<p>the weight of that water must have been</p>
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<p>intense it has a lot of water it's a lot</p>
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<p>of water that's a lot of weight</p>
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<p>um but so here we have like this</p>
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<p>conflict yeah right where oh not only is</p>
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<p>she doing a job that is a predominantly</p>
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<p>male job in a huge industry in</p>
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<p>Pittsburgh Pennsylvania especially then</p>
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<p>especially then you can imagine the</p>
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<p>money she would be making now at that</p>
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<p>at that age she wouldn't be a full</p>
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<p>welder she'd be an apprentice welder but</p>
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<p>you would still be making a ton of money</p>
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<p>based on her age yeah you can talk about</p>
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<p>it yeah based on her age because you</p>
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<p>have to have so many years experience</p>
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<p>welding to to be a master welder and so</p>
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<p>Apprentice welder but you're still</p>
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<p>making a ton of money Pittsburgh is a</p>
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<p>city of Steel yeah it's this welding</p>
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<p>everywhere and so we go to the location</p>
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<p>where she's working and she gets the</p>
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<p>sandwich yeah her lunch her lunch break</p>
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<p>yeah and you see all this the steel yeah</p>
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<p>and it was very interesting again kind</p>
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<p>of from a behind the scenes perspective</p>
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<p>so that's definitely that's absolutely</p>
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<p>the spot but the building has actually</p>
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<p>been kind of added on to a little bit</p>
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<p>and so we really had to kind of do some</p>
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<p>double takes because I was trying to</p>
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<p>recreate this shot and I couldn't quite</p>
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<p>get it to match because there's like a</p>
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<p>different building in the background now</p>
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<p>where there wasn't back then and they've</p>
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<p>built on they've kind of added this uh</p>
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<p>kind of truck dock station</p>
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<p>um actually on to the onto the building</p>
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<p>where she was next to so we do like the</p>
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<p>best job we can but like there's just I</p>
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<p>mean think about it was filmed you know</p>
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<p>in the early 80s it was released in</p>
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<p>1983. sure and uh here we are 40 years</p>
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<p>later which is crazy</p>
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<p>um and uh</p>
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<p>you know and so so the the cities change</p>
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<p>so the city's changed yeah so</p>
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<p>and here She Wants to Be a Dance she</p>
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<p>wants to be a ballet dancer so she wants</p>
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<p>to be a classically trained ballet</p>
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<p>dancer and the whole premise is she</p>
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<p>hasn't had any schooling right right and</p>
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<p>so she meets a guy and this is you know</p>
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<p>this movie I think does a lot for</p>
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<p>feminism but it also does a lot from</p>
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<p>misogyny it absolutely does it's super</p>
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<p>80s in that we're in that way because</p>
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<p>here's this guy who comes sees her dance</p>
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<p>yeah he's like oh she's hot and he and</p>
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<p>his friend tells him her social security</p>
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<p>number oh does he really and he goes</p>
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<p>what is that her phone number he goes to</p>
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<p>her social security number she works for</p>
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<p>you and it's like dude how do you have</p>
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<p>her social security number memorized</p>
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<p>like are you stalking her I forgot about</p>
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<p>that like you you know her you have her</p>
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<p>social security number just you can just</p>
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<p>rattle it off so there's some issues</p>
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<p>there right so then he sees her the next</p>
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<p>day and he's like I saw you dancing and</p>
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<p>she's like what like okay so that's kind</p>
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<p>of how they start talking and yeah</p>
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<p>there's some issues right and then they</p>
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<p>start dating they start dating and she</p>
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<p>kind of lets him in on her dream right</p>
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<p>like I want to study ballet it's always</p>
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<p>been my dream and then he</p>
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<p>being her boss of a welding industry you</p>
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<p>can imagine he has money heck yeah so he</p>
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<p>has connections and this is the art and</p>
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<p>culture of Pittsburgh so he has</p>
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<p>connections to that ballet industry and</p>
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<p>so he tries to help her get an audition</p>
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<p>and she loses her mind because she</p>
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<p>doesn't want help right she wants to do</p>
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<p>everything on her own feels like our</p>
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<p>daughter</p>
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<p>I she doesn't want help she can do it by</p>
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<p>herself she doesn't need anybody's help</p>
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<p>she's she's gone she's come this far on</p>
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<p>her own like you don't really get into</p>
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<p>family background but she's you can</p>
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<p>pretty much she's independent and</p>
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<p>isolated yeah right she's in Pittsburgh</p>
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<p>she's living in a where I mean I don't</p>
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<p>know how they can</p>
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<p>like I don't know how they can</p>
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<p>symbolize any more than that yeah that</p>
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<p>you're more alone and on your own than</p>
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<p>that</p>
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<p>so she gets upset that he helped her and</p>
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<p>because of that she doesn't want to do</p>
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<p>the audition right and so he really is</p>
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<p>passionate he is in the end of a good</p>
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<p>guy and he's really passionate that</p>
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<p>if you don't follow your dream you die</p>
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<p>and all I did was get you the audition</p>
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<p>you've got to get into this point and</p>
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<p>there's and there's there's part of the</p>
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<p>conflict is too is like she sees him</p>
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<p>with his ex-wife right because they have</p>
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<p>some business dealing or something like</p>
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<p>or some prior commitment ballet</p>
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<p>committee together because she sees him</p>
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<p>at the ballet right and he wasn't doing</p>
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<p>anything bad he was just literally there</p>
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<p>she's of course jealous and you know she</p>
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<p>doesn't want to be taken for a fool</p>
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<p>right and then she has a best friend who</p>
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<p>is also following her dream of being in</p>
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<p>the ice capades that's right and she</p>
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<p>falls and doesn't get into the ice</p>
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<p>capades and she basically throws</p>
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<p>everything away and starts working at</p>
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<p>the strip club and then doesn't she kind</p>
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<p>of encourage then from there she</p>
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<p>encourages her like hey you need to</p>
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<p>follow your dream do your thing well</p>
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<p>she's she just she gets her friend out</p>
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<p>of the strip club and she realizes how</p>
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<p>far her friend has lost her Focus yeah</p>
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<p>because she's lost her chance and so I</p>
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<p>think she sees all of that and</p>
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<p>goes for the audition and what I love</p>
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<p>about the audition</p>
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<p>is first of all the auditions filmed in</p>
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<p>La not even filmed in Pittsburgh so yeah</p>
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<p>there's there's big chunks if you look</p>
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<p>it up so actually</p>
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<p>this one wasn't as difficult to research</p>
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<p>for locations because there's a there's</p>
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<p>a website that that does a lot of this</p>
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<p>stuff yes and we were able to find a</p>
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<p>good portion of them some of them we</p>
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<p>kind of had to do some hunting yes</p>
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<p>because Nick's house is in La yeah yeah</p>
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<p>the where she dances is in La it's</p>
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<p>actually like a Bob Hope Center because</p>
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<p>if you look on the wall there's all</p>
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<p>these pictures of service members and</p>
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<p>it's actually a Uso Bob Hope Center that</p>
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<p>she dances at and</p>
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<p>I I think her Warehouse place is</p>
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<p>actually in La like so a couple of these</p>
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<p>places they actually filmed in the bar</p>
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<p>I'm pretty sure is is oh yeah not in</p>
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<p>Pittsburgh either so a couple of these</p>
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<p>places are not yeah local</p>
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<p>but one of the cool things and of course</p>
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<p>is the dance yeah right so at the very</p>
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<p>end of the song and I think the song was</p>
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<p>nominated for the Oscar I think it wins</p>
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<p>the Oscar What a Feeling yeah I think</p>
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<p>that song in Maniac we're both nominated</p>
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<p>yes and What a Feeling wins right but um</p>
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<p>so she dances at the end and of course</p>
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<p>you're watching this girl who has had no</p>
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<p>training whatsoever Rock This Dance and</p>
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<p>then would you come to find out is</p>
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<p>actually three people actually four</p>
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<p>people yeah do this dance before</p>
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<p>including her including her yeah do this</p>
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<p>dance so here's a person who's</p>
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<p>pretending to not have any dance and</p>
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<p>actually this so it's the the dancer who</p>
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<p>does all the dancing right the</p>
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<p>professional the professional who her</p>
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<p>face is kind of skewed in most things</p>
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<p>because Jennifer Beal is not a dancer so</p>
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<p>there's a woman who does all of her</p>
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<p>dancing and then there's a gymnast</p>
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<p>so they have a gymnast do the leap yeah</p>
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<p>yeah she has like this beautiful perfect</p>
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<p>Super Famous shot yeah just a gymnast</p>
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<p>for that one shot and then you have a</p>
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<p>break dancer right who's actually a guy</p>
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<p>yeah who's doing the break dance move</p>
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<p>and so and then you have some Jennifer</p>
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<p>Beal so you have four people creating</p>
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<p>this one dance</p>
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<p>of a person who's never took and dance</p>
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<p>in their life yeah that was great and</p>
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<p>and part of the and one of the things</p>
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<p>about this movie too as I was as I was</p>
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<p>editing it and things like that</p>
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<p>[Music]</p>
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<p>it was all the different kind of fashion</p>
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<p>that came out of this so the fashion was</p>
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<p>like so there's the there's the movie if</p>
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<p>you Google Flashdance if you've never</p>
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<p>seen it if you've never seen it</p>
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<p>after you're done listening to this</p>
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<p>podcast go go watch Google it because I</p>
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<p>can just the off the shoulder yeah the</p>
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<p>the holes that's that's from her that's</p>
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<p>all from Flash and didn't she kind of do</p>
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<p>some of that hers so she claims that she</p>
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<p>cut the hole so basically she said she</p>
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<p>couldn't fit her head in her sweatshirt</p>
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<p>it was too small so she cut the hole and</p>
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<p>they just kind of went with it hung off</p>
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<p>her shoulder yeah and they just kind of</p>
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<p>went with that and that's that's the</p>
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<p>move that's the cover of the movie yeah</p>
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<p>and she wears the rat of jeans yeah and</p>
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<p>this changes fashion for the 80s like</p>
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<p>yeah and then she did the leggings the</p>
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<p>wart like the warm-up leggings yes with</p>
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<p>like the leotards she wore those like on</p>
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<p>from the calf down yes like it's just so</p>
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<p>great so much fashion influence from</p>
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<p>this movie and you might think well no</p>
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<p>that was 80s no that was Flash Dance</p>
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<p>yeah like people think that the chicken</p>
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<p>came before the egg or no Flashdance</p>
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<p>came and then fashion caught up with it</p>
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<p>yeah it was like this whole kind of</p>
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<p>dance Jazzercise aerobic after</p>
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<p>Flashdance with the leg warmers and all</p>
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<p>that stuff but the cutting off of the</p>
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<p>sweatshirts hanging off your shoulder</p>
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<p>the holes in your jeans that's all</p>
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<p>Flashdance influence yeah it was it was</p>
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<p>it was really cool just kind of doing</p>
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<p>like finding pictures and and finding</p>
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<p>the shots and</p>
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<p>um and all this stuff and just there's</p>
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<p>so many classic scenes and classic shots</p>
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<p>in this movie and classic songs people</p>
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<p>still recreate the water on you still</p>
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<p>see that today recreate or Maniac people</p>
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<p>trying to like Yeah Yeah Chris Chris</p>
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<p>Farley you know for for my guy listeners</p>
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<p>out there you know Chris Farley and uh</p>
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<p>and what is it Tommy Boy yes right</p>
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<p>um you know so it's it's famous more</p>
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<p>than just outside of the 80s yes and</p>
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<p>it's so you get that it's the high it's</p>
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<p>the third highest grossing film of the</p>
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<p>80s so I was having this of 83 yeah so</p>
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<p>it's having this influence on people but</p>
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<p>the story of Alex is supposed to be</p>
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<p>based on a real character I think I</p>
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<p>talked about this that was very</p>
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<p>interesting so it's her name was Maureen</p>
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<p>martyr and she was a construction worker</p>
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<p>welder in Toronto yeah and she danced at</p>
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<p>night so just like Alex right and she's</p>
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<p>she sells her story</p>
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<p>for twenty three hundred dollars</p>
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<p>somebody in Hollywood Universal I don't</p>
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<p>remember wants to just kind of pitch it</p>
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<p>pitch the story so she sells it for</p>
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<p>twenty three hundred dollars so then</p>
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<p>when it's the third highest grossing</p>
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<p>movie of 83 she tries to come back yeah</p>
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<p>and get reimbursed like some back and</p>
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<p>money right and takes him to court and</p>
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<p>everything and the court finds no you're</p>
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<p>2300 by the way yeah you sign it away</p>
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<p>that's what you got to read that fine</p>
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<p>print yeah I mean it Crystal 200 million</p>
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<p>oh my gosh that's crazy 200 million</p>
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<p>dollars and so the court told her sorry</p>
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<p>I mean I don't even think they gave her</p>
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<p>even a kickback just to be nice probably</p>
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<p>not I mean legally they don't have to</p>
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<p>right that's kind of that's business</p>
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<p>right that's if you sign it away you</p>
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<p>know it could have been it could have</p>
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<p>never made it into a movie at all and</p>
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<p>she would have made twenty three hundred</p>
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<p>dollars but it did and it became an</p>
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<p>enormously influential and popular movie</p>
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<p>sure and so we talk about its influences</p>
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<p>on feminism yes so I talked a lot about</p>
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<p>the bicycle yeah right because Susan B</p>
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<p>Anthony was very</p>
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<p>adamant about women learning how to</p>
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<p>Bicycle she wanted the bicycle to be the</p>
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<p>symbol of the feminist movement and she</p>
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<p>wanted that because it showed women</p>
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<p>having real Independence in their</p>
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<p>transportation because at the time women</p>
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<p>were very much</p>
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<p>you just had to be</p>
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<p>whatever you're Reliant yeah you're</p>
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<p>reliant on your husband or your</p>
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<p>significant other or whatever yeah</p>
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<p>whatever they had for a carriage or</p>
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<p>maybe a trolley you know so it wasn't</p>
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<p>like you're reliant on mass</p>
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<p>transportation you don't have your own</p>
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<p>individual it was very symbolic right</p>
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<p>the bicycle kind of became the symbol I</p>
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<p>mean they were like when I was again</p>
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<p>when I was looking at pictures yeah of</p>
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<p>kind of the women's right rights</p>
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<p>movements and stuff like that</p>
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<p>um they were they're posing there with</p>
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<p>their bicycles yeah so you it's so</p>
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<p>evident in the movie another like</p>
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<p>another symbolism she's bicycling</p>
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<p>everywhere in this movie she doesn't</p>
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<p>have a car she could easily afford a car</p>
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<p>she's a welder she was making 1980s</p>
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<p>actually making really good money in</p>
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<p>Pittsburgh Pennsylvania she could buy a</p>
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<p>car but she's not she's using her 10</p>
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<p>speed from her dance studio at night in</p>
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<p>the rain right at one point Nick is</p>
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<p>they drive that that's if there's one</p>
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<p>theme that they're driving through this</p>
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<p>right it's being independent and for her</p>
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<p>following her dream yes following her</p>
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<p>dreams so that that's the whole momentum</p>
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<p>here is that you're there it's a huge</p>
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<p>influence in pop culture is following</p>
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<p>your dreams maybe sometimes you do need</p>
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<p>help from other people it's okay to take</p>
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<p>the help from other people yeah the</p>
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<p>story of struggle yes we all need help</p>
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<p>every now and then that's okay you can</p>
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<p>still make your dreams come true and you</p>
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<p>know that you need people to believe in</p>
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<p>you in the end but I think the biggest</p>
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<p>thing is like opportunity when it meets</p>
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<p>preparation yes equals success</p>
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<p>absolutely and I think that's kind of</p>
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<p>what it was trying to show there like</p>
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<p>she's still doing it on her own because</p>
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<p>she was prepared for that moment right</p>
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<p>she had the opportunity she got it the</p>
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<p>opportunity from help but her</p>
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<p>preparation led to her success so I</p>
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<p>think</p>
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<p>that was the huge message that they were</p>
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<p>trying to get across especially for</p>
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<p>women in the early 80s you can do it</p>
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<p>yeah you know make sure you're prepared</p>
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<p>for when opportunity presents itself to</p>
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<p>you yeah and there was there was one</p>
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<p>other thing before we finish up that I</p>
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<p>want to talk about that I thought was</p>
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<p>really neat</p>
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<p>and that was the crossing guard oh yeah</p>
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<p>so we we go there the crossing guard</p>
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<p>what was this do you remember his name</p>
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<p>that's right and so I actually was able</p>
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<p>to find like original old footage on</p>
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<p>YouTube of vixianka he did it for 30</p>
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<p>years he did it so and if if you again</p>
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<p>if you haven't seen the movie finish</p>
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<p>this podcast then go watch the movie if</p>
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<p>you have seen the movie if you remember</p>
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<p>when she's crossing the street with her</p>
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<p>friend and they're kind of being playful</p>
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<p>with their play being playful with this</p>
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<p>crossing guard who's making him he's got</p>
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<p>very big arm movements and he you could</p>
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<p>you can tell he's got white gloves and</p>
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<p>he's being very he's having fun with it</p>
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<p>right he's kind of a little bit of a</p>
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<p>character sure but I didn't realize like</p>
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<p>he was a Pittsburgh staple yes for 30</p>
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<p>years he did that because you can</p>
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<p>imagine the traffic at rush hour yeah</p>
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<p>and he's he directed traffic for 30</p>
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<p>years getting people in and out of the</p>
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<p>city now that location was actually</p>
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<p>difficult to find very difficult because</p>
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<p>things have changed we we we're pretty</p>
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<p>sure we found the right spot where we</p>
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<p>were filming someone I think came back</p>
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<p>to us later and said hey no he actually</p>
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<p>used to stand over here that's where the</p>
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<p>shot is we're at</p>
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<p>537th Avenue were raid by the the</p>
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<p>Benedum theater yeah</p>
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<p>um word wood and Liberty like we're</p>
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<p>right there but I think the person said</p>
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<p>maybe it was Atwood and Liberty yeah I</p>
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<p>think we're like once again things have</p>
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<p>changed Bridges have been updated and</p>
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<p>stuff like that right since the you know</p>
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<p>the early 80s</p>
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<p>um but that was just such kind of a neat</p>
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<p>little tribute to to Pittsburgh history</p>
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<p>yes and he was in maybe so we say good</p>
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<p>that's right that's right he was a Navy</p>
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<p>guy</p>
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<p>um and little things like that are for</p>
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<p>me always kind of like a real pleasant</p>
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<p>surprise because here's this neat</p>
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<p>piece of History this neat character he</p>
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<p>wasn't seeking fame right he was just</p>
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<p>serving his community he was a police</p>
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<p>officer he was directing traffic and</p>
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<p>here here he is and now he's featured in</p>
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<p>a movie and he had he was well known</p>
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<p>before that right and now here he is</p>
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<p>cemented and another classic That's a</p>
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<p>classic scene it's not a big scene it</p>
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<p>doesn't really contribute too much to</p>
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<p>the story other than she's just having</p>
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<p>fun around Pittsburgh and here's his</p>
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<p>crossing guard they're being playful and</p>
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<p>he's having a good he's being playful</p>
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<p>right back that was just to me that was</p>
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<p>just like something that I that I took a</p>
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<p>lot of joy out of yeah just like it</p>
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<p>shows you very Community oriented</p>
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<p>Pittsburgh is just that loves its people</p>
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<p>yeah and he's got like classic 80s</p>
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<p>mustache oh man he's got the Tom Selleck</p>
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<p>mustache all day and he's pulling it off</p>
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<p>like a champ it was that that was just a</p>
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<p>ton of fun for me like that little piece</p>
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<p>I just got a ton of enjoyment out I</p>
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<p>loved filming this one I just loved</p>
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<p>being in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania it was</p>
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<p>fun it was fun driving her on Pittsburgh</p>
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<p>and again it's just such a fun movie so</p>
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<p>again if you haven't ever seen the movie</p>
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<p>or you haven't seen our video</p>
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<p>stop listening to this podcast once</p>
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<p>you're done go watch our video then go</p>
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<p>watch the movie</p>
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<p>um but because it's just such a blast</p>
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<p>it's a classic 80s movie and and filming</p>
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<p>it and driving around Pittsburgh was a</p>
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<p>ton of fun</p>
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<p>so Flash Dance was not only a great</p>
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<p>movie that showed how women and their</p>
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<p>independence were on the rise</p>
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<p>shifting out of that era of the 50s 60s</p>
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<p>and 70s</p>
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<p>but some of the underlying messages of</p>
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<p>women's rights and feminism while not</p>
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<p>giving up what makes them unique as a</p>
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<p>woman is what Flashdance is truly about</p>
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<p>that</p>
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<p>and that a steel town girl can still</p>
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<p>love a guy that loves her enough to not</p>
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<p>let her dreams die</p>
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<p>for loving the skilletown girl enough to</p>
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