We Go Inside the Titanic: History, Artifacts & Traveling Exhibit Experience

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<p>Imagine it's 1912, and you are standing next to the sheer</p>
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<p>towering scale of the RMS Titanic.</p>
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<p>It sits docked in Southampton.</p>
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<p>It's a floating palace of iron and luxury, a testament to human ingenuity that</p>
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<p>the world proudly declares unsinkable.</p>
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<p>The air's filled with cheers of thousands, the scent of fresh lacquer, and the</p>
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<p>boundless optimism of a new century.</p>
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<p>But four days later, in the freezing starlit darkness of the North</p>
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<p>Atlantic, that optimism shatters.</p>
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<p>A sudden scrape against ice, a frantic rush of black water into</p>
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<p>the hull, and within hours, the grandest ship in the world is gone.</p>
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<p>It became one of the deadliest peacetime maritime disasters in history,</p>
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<p>claiming the lives of over 1,500 souls.</p>
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<p>It was a tragedy that didn't just end lives.</p>
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<p>It permanently altered our relationship with progress, safety, and the sea</p>
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<p>Welcome to Talk with History.</p>
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<p>One filmmaker, one historian leading history-inspired world</p>
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<p>travels for the curious, the history lovers, and the explorer in us all.</p>
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<p>I am your host, Scott, here with my wife and historian, Jenn.</p>
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<p>Hello.</p>
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<p>Today, we aren't just talking about the history books.</p>
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<p>We're bringing you along on our visit to the Traveling Titanic Exhibition.</p>
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<p>Jenn and I are diving deep into what it's like to stand inches away from</p>
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<p>actual items of the ship recovered from two and a half miles beneath the ocean.</p>
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<p>We'll talk about the haunting experience of watching a detailed</p>
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<p>recreation of the sinking of the ship, and how this traveling exhibit</p>
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<p>beautifully connects us to the raw human stories behind the tragedy.</p>
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<p>Today, we are stepping onto the deck of history's most famous shipwreck</p>
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<p>All right, Jenn.</p>
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<p>You, when you were in college, saw this movie 10 times in the theater I learned</p>
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<p>this very early on in our relationship.</p>
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<p>You told me your brother had to carry you out of the theater sobbing I think the</p>
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<p>first time or the second time you saw it.</p>
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<p>Yeah, I don't think I've ever cried hysterically-</p>
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<p>at a movie.</p>
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<p>It was the Titanic.</p>
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<p>It probably was the only time I've ever done this to this degree, 'cause I've</p>
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<p>cried at other movies, but to the f- to, to the fact I couldn't even get up</p>
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<p>out of the seat and my brother had to kinda lift me up, walk me to the car.</p>
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<p>I remember he put me in the car, put my seatbelt on and shut the door.</p>
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<p>I was so hysterical at the end of the movie.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>So, so, I, I lead with that because Jenn loves all, all things Titanic.</p>
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<p>We actually have another video on the Titanic memorial outside of Washington,</p>
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<p>DC, so I'll link that in the show notes if you guys wanna see that.</p>
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<p>It's kind of an interesting piece of Titanic history.</p>
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<p>Um.</p>
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<p>Yeah, and we visit some Titanic, um, victims, uh, and their burial places.</p>
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<p>Oh, yeah.</p>
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<p>One of them in, in, in Buffalo.</p>
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<p>Richmond.</p>
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<p>Richmond.</p>
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<p>Richmond.</p>
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<p>And Buffalo, New York.</p>
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<p>Yep.</p>
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<p>Um, we always seem to find them, and I wanna pay my respects.</p>
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<p>So it's just something that's fascinated me since I was a kid.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>Right.</p>
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<p>Now, I, I say all of that to kind of sh- you know, let our audience know, you know,</p>
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<p>how, how much Jenn enjoys this topic.</p>
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<p>But w- interesting fact, when you were up in Baltimore w- with American Cruise</p>
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<p>Lines, you were out there kinda seeing the, the history sites, and I don't</p>
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<p>think you expected to find this, this traveling Titanic Experience exhibit.</p>
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<p>This is kinda one of those traveling exhibits that travels, you know, it moves</p>
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<p>it around the country, and I will put a link in the show notes to see if there's,</p>
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<p>it's coming to a s- a city close to you.</p>
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<p>So if this interests you, take a look at the podcast show notes or the video</p>
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<p>show notes, and I'll, I'll put the link to this specific exhibit, this</p>
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<p>traveling exhibit, and you can see if it's gonna be anywhere close to you.</p>
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<p>But tell us about this exhibit.</p>
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<p>It's unlike anything I've ever done before.</p>
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<p>It's one of those immersive experiences, and what I mean by that is I've seen</p>
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<p>Titanic e- exhibits before in, uh, Las Vegas and thing like s- things like that</p>
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<p>where they have a lot of the artifacts.</p>
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<p>Like a more museum style.</p>
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<p>Yes, and you, you get a character before you walk in.</p>
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<p>You see if you survive.</p>
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<p>This was much more you were on the ship, and you got to see the grand</p>
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<p>stair- uh, staircase, and you got to stand there, and you got to</p>
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<p>see the water rushing toward you.</p>
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<p>But the most amazing one was where you got to sit in a lifeboat in</p>
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<p>a dark room and watch the ship as it slowly, the lights went out</p>
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<p>and- A- and they let you film.</p>
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<p>Like you asked.</p>
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<p>Yes.</p>
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<p>They let you film the whole thing, so I, I was very surprised by that because a</p>
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<p>lot of times exhibits like this won't.</p>
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<p>They'll kinda be against that.</p>
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<p>You could, they'll say, "You can take pictures but no video." But they let</p>
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<p>you film the whole thing, so there are some really cool shots that you</p>
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<p>got in the video, which again will be linked in the, in the show notes</p>
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<p>of the podcast, that, and I'll show it on the video one, of this kind of-</p>
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<p>It's neat 'cause you're from behind, so you can see the rest of the people</p>
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<p>in this exhibit sitting in a lifeboat.</p>
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<p>It looks like they're in a lifeboat in the water looking at the Titanic</p>
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<p>off in the distance, 'cause this dark room… So it was really neat.</p>
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<p>It was neat.</p>
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<p>It was cold in there, like it would've been that night.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>And you see the ship rise up, and you see it break in two, and</p>
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<p>then you see how fast it sank.</p>
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<p>It, you, you're kind of there for its last moments, and it was really immersive.</p>
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<p>Plus, they also have a, uh, VR, uh, option, where you can put the VR headset</p>
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<p>on and basically walk around the Titanic.</p>
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<p>Oh, wow.</p>
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<p>So like you can put the goggles on- Yeah … and you can actually… Oh, that's-</p>
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<p>And I didn't do that part because I couldn't actually, like, film that,</p>
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<p>but it, it's also part of the immersive experience if you'd like to do it.</p>
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<p>So, uh, yeah, it was just… I, I never get bored with learning about it.</p>
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<p>I never get bored with finding out things and going there and seeing it.</p>
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<p>So for me, it was one of those moments that I, I know a lot about it, so I</p>
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<p>got to see a recreation of where the telegraph operators worked, and them</p>
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<p>sending out CQD when no one really knows what that means, and how the Titanic</p>
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<p>brings about all of these rules in maritime safety, which we as sailors</p>
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<p>know now, and we take them as, as law.</p>
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<p>But by, at that time, in 1912, uh, these weren't established yet.</p>
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<p>So, so tell me about the CQD.</p>
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<p>So folks may not know that SOS has not always been a universal cry for help.</p>
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<p>Yes.</p>
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<p>Uh, so CQD was their-</p>
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<p>There was their cry for help, but because it's, it's not universal at</p>
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<p>the time, and people, some people don't know what that means, and what, when</p>
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<p>you say, "What do you mean, Jenn?"</p>
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<p>They don't know what that means.</p>
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<p>Nowadays, we all pretty much speak English on the maritime.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>Uh- Yeah.</p>
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<p>When w- i- if, if folks don't know, right, when we, we do a deployment,</p>
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<p>and it's, it's been some time, but even when I did a, did a deployment over</p>
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<p>the Arabian Gulf, right, y- on, on my first and second ship, um, when you're</p>
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<p>traveling, typically, right, the Navy ships are some of the larger ships out</p>
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<p>there, unless you go on by a merchant ship, but everybody on the open seas</p>
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<p>99% of the time speaks basic English.</p>
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<p>So if we're calling out our position or we're querying a ship, um, or we're</p>
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<p>kind of stating our intentions, we're stating it in English, and basically</p>
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<p>everybody on the open ocean speaks enough English or has someone that</p>
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<p>speaks English so they can communicate.</p>
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<p>Yes.</p>
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<p>At that time, that really wasn't quite done yet.</p>
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<p>Yeah, not in 1912.</p>
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<p>And so the standard distress call for British s- ships that were</p>
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<p>equipped with this wireless system, it was first introduced in 1904.</p>
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<p>It combined the telegraph code CQ, which means attention all</p>
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<p>stations, with D, distress.</p>
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<p>So it translates to all stations distress.</p>
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<p>Uh, and this is right when s- uh, SOS, uh, is coming into international</p>
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<p>use, and so it's not recognized globally yet, and that's why they</p>
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<p>kinda- They alternate between the two.</p>
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<p>They use CQD and they use SOS, but at the time people were like, "Only</p>
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<p>British ships are gonna know what CQD means," and SOS is still not picked</p>
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<p>up by everyone internationally.</p>
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<p>So this is… The Titanic is in the perfect spot for just a, the maritime</p>
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<p>disaster, which is what happens because the comms have not been</p>
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<p>standardized, and so that's what happens.</p>
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<p>A- and I show you the desk and how d- low the desk was to the ground</p>
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<p>because the men were in a smaller room.</p>
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<p>But if you know anything about the Titanic and those men, they stay</p>
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<p>there till the very last moment-</p>
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<p>Yep</p>
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<p>… uh, getting those distress calls out, and they do survive, and they're</p>
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<p>able to give testimony later on.</p>
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<p>But the other ships in the area who hear some of these things, again, it,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:08:59</time>
<p>this, the Titanic, this is major news.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:01</time>
<p>This ship is on its maiden voyage.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:04</time>
<p>The, the name alone is Greek mythology for the Titans.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:08</time>
<p>Like, it is a, uh, you know, a, a ship of dreams.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:11</time>
<p>No one's imagining that they're having any issues four days into their maiden voyage.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:15</time>
<p>They think it's something with their, their- That they're</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:18</time>
<p>celebrating … they're celebrating.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:19</time>
<p>They're having a good time.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:20</time>
<p>They're letting off fireworks.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:21</time>
<p>Like, they don't realize that this ship is sinking.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:24</time>
<p>It's just kind of like an unfathomable thing to imagine, so</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:28</time>
<p>the other ships in the area don't pay attention and don't listen.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:31</time>
<p>Um, and as we know, RMS Titanic, uh, Royal Mail ship is what that means.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:38</time>
<p>The British used RMS for Royal Mail sh- mail, like the mail, um, ship for any</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:43</time>
<p>ship that's carrying mail on it, and so that's why the Titanic is the RMS Titanic.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:48</time>
<p>Um, it sinks April 15th, 1912.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:51</time>
<p>Uh, hits a iceberg.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:53</time>
<p>There's about 2,200 passengers on board and about 1,500 of them will die.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:59</time>
<p>Um, and like you said, it's one of the deadliest peacetime disasters.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:03</time>
<p>They find that the lifeboats who, well, they don't have for</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:06</time>
<p>everyone on board, were only filled to an average capacity of 60%.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:12</time>
<p>Oh, I don't, I don't think I knew that.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:14</time>
<p>And then when the people go into the water, the lifeboats don't go back to get</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:18</time>
<p>them because they're- Afraid or concerned that people will swarm the lifeboats- Yeah</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:23</time>
<p>and pull them down, when really nobody barely had that kind of muscle.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:28</time>
<p>They're being… They're in the- they're in their clothes and- In</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:31</time>
<p>ice cold water</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:32</time>
<p>… ice cold</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:32</time>
<p>water.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:32</time>
<p>Right.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:33</time>
<p>I- it- it's… So the, the interesting thing about this exhibit, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:37</time>
<p>Again, I encourage you folks to go watch the video.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:39</time>
<p>If you're listening, um, again, pod- the link to the video</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:42</time>
<p>is in the podcast show notes.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:44</time>
<p>But you're walking through, so it's kinda walking you through, like, some</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:47</time>
<p>of the engineering spaces, and then you get to see different artifacts.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:51</time>
<p>Ki- some are actually from the movie, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:53</time>
<p>You actually saw a life vest that was worn by, I think, Kate Winslet-</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:56</time>
<p>Yes … right, in the movie.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:58</time>
<p>Um, so you show, you show a life vest.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:00</time>
<p>But there's other artifacts that are actually from the Titanic.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:04</time>
<p>There was a deckchair that you, that you showed on there, full-sized deckchair,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:08</time>
<p>and I was kinda surprised to see that.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:09</time>
<p>And there's other little, little things that you show throughout.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:12</time>
<p>Yeah, so that was neat.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:13</time>
<p>Like, they have a, they had, uh, I think it was Ismay's book or prayer hymnal.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:18</time>
<p>Yeah,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:18</time>
<p>the, the guy who built-</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:19</time>
<p>The guy</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:20</time>
<p>… the Titanic.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:20</time>
<p>Mm-hmm.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:21</time>
<p>Uh, he's the, uh, one of the chairmen, the financer, JP Morgan, and there</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:24</time>
<p>was a lot of famous people on there.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:26</time>
<p>So they have a couple things, like postcard, picture cards, artifacts.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:29</time>
<p>And you can go places and see artifacts that they have taken from</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:32</time>
<p>the bottom of the, of the ocean floor.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:35</time>
<p>Uh, but what they have that I, you know, was so amazed by was</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:40</time>
<p>just the recreation of everything.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:42</time>
<p>And you can stand on the bridge and look through the windows and see what that</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:47</time>
<p>looked like through the windows for the captain and for the people on board.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:51</time>
<p>Uh, you can stand on the bow and put your arms out like you're flying.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:55</time>
<p>Yeah,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:55</time>
<p>like</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:56</time>
<p>in the, in the movie.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:56</time>
<p>Like in the movie, which was really fun.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:58</time>
<p>They have one of seven full deckchairs that exist, and so it</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:02</time>
<p>was neat to see that artifact, which you don't get to see very often.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:06</time>
<p>But, uh, the biggest thing for me was you get to walk into the spaces.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:09</time>
<p>You get to walk into the dining rooms.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:11</time>
<p>You get to see what the silverware looked like set out.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:14</time>
<p>You get to see what the menus were.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:17</time>
<p>You get to see the tiles that were in the pool, and then you get to walk into those</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:21</time>
<p>exercise spaces and what they look like.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:24</time>
<p>Uh, no photographs exist of the pool, so they just kinda recreated</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:27</time>
<p>for you for what it looked like.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:29</time>
<p>Uh, it was just amazing to be immersed in Titanic.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:33</time>
<p>I've never had that kind of experience before.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:36</time>
<p>And like I said, when you go into the room with the lifeboats</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:39</time>
<p>and the sinking, it's cold.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:41</time>
<p>Like, you would be on the lifeboat cold and huddled up</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:44</time>
<p>and, and watching this happen.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:45</time>
<p>So for me, it really was exciting, and I never get bored or tired- Yeah</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:51</time>
<p>of doing anything Titanic because that movie, like you said, meant so much to</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:55</time>
<p>me, and the story means so much to me.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:59</time>
<p>And we always talk about- women and children first, and you have these</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:05</time>
<p>of the first class, the second class, the third class, the s- the steerage,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:09</time>
<p>very much class-oriented on this ship.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:13</time>
<p>And because of the chivalry of the men, m- more women and children</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:17</time>
<p>survive of every class- Yep</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:20</time>
<p>than, um, than the men.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:22</time>
<p>And that's what that monument is to in Washington, D.C. It's to the men</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:28</time>
<p>of the Titanic who w- who did their role in not getting on the lifeboats</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:34</time>
<p>and allowing women and children to go.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:37</time>
<p>Um, the lifeboats could have held about 1,100 people, roughly half the</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:41</time>
<p>passengers on board, and, uh, but again, only about 700 survive because they</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:47</time>
<p>don't fill the lifeboats to capacity.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:49</time>
<p>But you still have a, a higher percentage of women and children</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:54</time>
<p>surviving than men because they adhered to that maritime It's not even a rule.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:01</time>
<p>It's just-</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:03</time>
<p>It's kind of a… Yeah, it's, I would say it's like a, one of those unwritten rules.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:06</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:06</time>
<p>Right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:06</time>
<p>It's, it's like, you know, men opening the door for, for a woman, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:10</time>
<p>It's, it's one of those kind of things, the societal expectation.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:14</time>
<p>I don't know.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:15</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:15</time>
<p>I- it's, it's just very chivalrous.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:17</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:17</time>
<p>And I, I don't know if America or the world has gotten more towards that or</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:23</time>
<p>away from that, but it's just still, when I, when I think of those men… And for</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:28</time>
<p>me, it had different meaning because our oldest is 15 years old, and he's a boy,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:34</time>
<p>and at that age, they said on the Titanic, they would've considered him a man.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:39</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:40</time>
<p>And they would not have allowed him on a lifeboat.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:42</time>
<p>And I thought to myself, "Wow." There were a lot of women who stayed behind</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:45</time>
<p>with their children, uh, if they couldn't get on, on a lifeboat, or</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:48</time>
<p>if their husbands couldn't get on.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:50</time>
<p>And I thought, "This would be one of those moments for me." If my son</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:54</time>
<p>couldn't get on board the Titanic, we'd be taking down those doors and those bed</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:59</time>
<p>frames and flinging them into the water, and I'd be doing a full Kate Winslet-</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:03</time>
<p>Yeah</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:03</time>
<p>and getting on one side of the bed with him.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:07</time>
<p>But it was just, it just is amazing.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:08</time>
<p>I still think about this, the class system that was so prevalent then,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:13</time>
<p>and the men who stayed behind so women and children could be saved.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:17</time>
<p>An- another place we visited on the channel is Molly Brown's house,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:20</time>
<p>and you think of the Unsinkable Molly Brown, in Denver, Colorado.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:23</time>
<p>Her home is there, and we tell her story.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:26</time>
<p>She was one of the women on the lifeboats who help, um, with the</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:31</time>
<p>people on there and, and keeping morale up before they are rescued.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:35</time>
<p>But as you know, the subsequent, uh, trials that happen after this, and then</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:41</time>
<p>most of the victims are buried in, uh, Canada, where most of the bodies d-</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:47</time>
<p>would wash ashore, or the, the boats could get, uh, easier access to them.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:51</time>
<p>And, um, that's where the big museums are.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:54</time>
<p>This is where James Cameron did a lot of his research.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:57</time>
<p>But if you really wanna be immersed in what it looked like and felt</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:01</time>
<p>like and stand there at the end of the grand staircase, and, and</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:05</time>
<p>for me, sit in a lifeboat, it really was… I, I really loved it.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:11</time>
<p>And, uh, if it, it visits you, if you wanna be a part of that, if</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:15</time>
<p>Titanic means as much to you as it does to, does to me, I don't know</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:19</time>
<p>why we're still fascinated with this ship the 115 years later, but we are.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:25</time>
<p>And, uh, and it was super fun.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:29</time>
<p>If the traveling Titanic exhibition comes to a city near</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:32</time>
<p>you, it's an absolute must-visit.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:35</time>
<p>It isn't just a museum display.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:37</time>
<p>It's an emotional landscape that forces you to ask yourself how you would</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:40</time>
<p>respond in the face of the ultimate test.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>It honors the dead by keeping their memories alive, ensuring their names are</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:48</time>
<p>spoken and their stories are remembered.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>We'll talk to you next time</p>
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