Ronald Reagan: The true history of his assassination attempt

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<p>March 30th, 1981.</p>
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<p>It was a Monday, like many Spring Mondays in the DC area.</p>
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<p>Overcast and cool enough to warrant wearing a jacket as a spring was</p>
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<p>ushering in the cherry blossoms and slowly but surely chasing</p>
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<p>away that bitter winter chill.</p>
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<p>The day was like any other, but not for long.</p>
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<p>Yes, this was still our nation's capital and there were politicians,</p>
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<p>journalists, labor leaders, and many other people at the , Washington</p>
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<p>Hilton, for the Reaganomics speech that had just been given.</p>
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<p>In fact, there were several hundred people at this AFL C I O fundraiser</p>
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<p>with the keynote speaker being none other than the Gipper himself.</p>
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<p>It was 2:27 PM.</p>
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<p>That the Secret Service announced to in each other's ears that "Rawhide"</p>
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<p>was on the move walking to his vehicle to head back home when all</p>
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<p>of a sudden gunshots rang out and President Ronald Reagan was shot.</p>
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<p>Welcome to Talk With History.</p>
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<p>Now, before we get into talking about this historic event tonight, that</p>
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<p>happened 42 years ago on the date today.</p>
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<p>We actually visited the</p>
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<p>Jen, tell us about what we're</p>
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<p>talking about tonight.</p>
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<p>So this is the assassination attempt of President Ronald Reagan happened 42</p>
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<p>years ago today, 1981, and he had just given a speech in our nation's capital.</p>
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<p>And he was walking outside.</p>
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<p>And it's interesting because this Washington Hilton had made this</p>
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<p>entrance for presidential speeches.</p>
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<p>If you see that kind of brick area that's a walkway where you can</p>
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<p>walk inside that brick area to go.</p>
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<p>And speak.</p>
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<p>So it's pretty well protected.</p>
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<p>And that's where Reagan was going to give a speech to, I think union workers.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>And Reaganomics.</p>
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<p>Yep.</p>
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<p>And he had just finished giving the speech, so he was leaving and</p>
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<p>coming out and it was like 2 27, like you had said, it was 2 27 and.</p>
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<p>He waves to some people and over where the plaque is at is</p>
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<p>where the gunman was standing.</p>
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<p>Hinckley was</p>
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<p>standing.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>So the picture that's shown right now, this is the picture, one of the</p>
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<p>pictures that I took while we were there.</p>
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<p>We were in DC a couple weeks ago, and so we went up there.</p>
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<p>It was really cold and the this Washington Hilton is still used.</p>
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<p>It looks almost exactly like it did, 42 years ago.</p>
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<p>So there's the plaque right there, you can see right there on our screen.</p>
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<p>And so Jen's talking over there in the better light.</p>
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<p>I'm over here behind the camera taking the pictures.</p>
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<p>And so that's the that's, I'm standing right where it happened.</p>
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<p>And so you get Hinckley who fires six rounds in</p>
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<p>succession and he has a revolver.</p>
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<p>So you can only fire six rounds.</p>
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<p>Yep.</p>
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<p>And the first shot actually hits the Press Secretary Brady.</p>
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<p>And we'll talk more about that because you get the Brady bill</p>
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<p>that will come out of this.</p>
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<p>He hits him in the head.</p>
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<p>Brady goes forward it will impact Brady for the rest of his life.</p>
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<p>He will be in a wheelchair.</p>
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<p>The second shot hits Tom Delaney.</p>
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<p>. He's a police officer.</p>
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<p>Police officer.</p>
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<p>Okay.</p>
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<p>And as he hits him in the back, he says, he yells I'm hit.</p>
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<p>So it's sets the events too.</p>
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<p>And, but he falls forward and now you have a clear path to the president.</p>
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<p>Yeah, so he basically, Hinckley has taken out the two people that kind of</p>
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<p>were in the path of President Reagan.</p>
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<p>but the fourth one is going to hit.</p>
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<p>The other secret servants agent, that's Tim McCarthy.</p>
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<p>Yep.</p>
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<p>And he's gonna hit him in the chest.</p>
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<p>So he does his job.</p>
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<p>So what happens is the two people go down.</p>
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<p>Brady is hit, he goes down, the police officer hit in the back, he says, I'm hit.</p>
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<p>I go down.</p>
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<p>The fourth shot goes over their heads.</p>
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<p>But Par is pushing the president into the limo.</p>
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<p>Delaney turns towards the gunfire shots.</p>
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<p>Yep.</p>
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<p>And spreads out his arms just like a secret service agent is supposed to do.</p>
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<p>Yeah, he makes himself a bigger target and he gets hit right in the chest.</p>
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<p>And then the fifth shot hits the limo window, but it's the sixth</p>
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<p>shot that gets the president.</p>
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<p>It's the sixth shot that ricochets off the parking lot, hits the back of the limo.</p>
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<p>And because the limo is bulletproof, it actually ricocheted back</p>
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<p>ricochets into the armpit.</p>
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<p>Oh, I didn't realize that.</p>
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<p>Oh,</p>
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<p>Ronald Reagan.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>And I, and if I remember right and the thing with our video.</p>
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<p>There's a ton of video you guys can find a ton of videos on.</p>
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<p>The Reagan shooting, you could find a ton of journalists that have</p>
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<p>done it over the years, recently, 20 years ago, 30 years ago.</p>
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<p>And they do some very in depth, they actually drive the route and do,</p>
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<p>and, of film on the whole thing.</p>
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<p>So we actually use those as a little bit of research on our side.</p>
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<p>So there's some really good ones.</p>
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<p>But one of the things I think I remember him talking about, They just,</p>
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<p>they didn't realize he was hit right</p>
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<p>now.</p>
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<p>They didn't realize he was hit because he, again it's a ricocheted bullet that's</p>
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<p>getting him in like the back left armpit.</p>
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<p>So I'm doing my right, my, the left armpit.</p>
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<p>His injuries were not noticed at first.</p>
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<p>And I actually enjoyed learning the call, like the call</p>
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<p>sign or the secret service call sign.</p>
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<p>Yes.</p>
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<p>That was</p>
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<p>was Rawhide</p>
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<p>back to the White House.</p>
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<p>Back to the White House Rawhide is okay.</p>
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<p>Raw Hyde for the president.</p>
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<p>And they called the White House the Crown.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>So they get in the limo.</p>
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<p>The Secret Service hand shoves his hands on the president to look for anything.</p>
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<p>He doesn't see any blood because it's in his back left armpit.</p>
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<p>And he goes, okay, let's head towards the crown.</p>
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<p>So that's what you hear on the radio,</p>
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<p>We're going, we're going to crown</p>
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<p>but then President Reagan starts to cough up blood.</p>
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<p>Well,</p>
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<p>and the other funny thing is too, the people on the radio are so worked up.</p>
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<p>That some people are forget to use the call signs.</p>
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<p>Yes.</p>
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<p>About that.</p>
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<p>Some people say are you going to the White House?</p>
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<p>And they're he's like going to the crown.</p>
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<p>You wanna</p>
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<p>go to hospital or back to the White</p>
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<p>House?</p>
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<p>We're going, we're going to crown</p>
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<p>Yes.</p>
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<p>And then they pick the alternate location once he figures out</p>
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<p>that he's been shot.</p>
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<p>So when he starts to cough up blood, the secret servant agent realizes</p>
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<p>right away that there's blood in his lungs and he has to make a call.</p>
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<p>Roger, we wanna go to the emergency room of George Washington.</p>
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<p>Roger.</p>
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<p>Oh, George Washington.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>And he has to And you have to say it over the radio.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>So here he is.</p>
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<p>Everybody who can have access to a radio, that Raw Hyde is going to George</p>
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<p>Washington.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>And that's what right is, he says like Rawhide is hit or raw.</p>
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<p>Hy is going to George Washington</p>
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<p>Raw Hyde is going to George Washington.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:07:20</time>
<p>And.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:07:22</time>
<p>So that's the name of the hospital, George Washington University Hospital.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:07:24</time>
<p>So he's using the exact name and he had to really weigh national security.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Radio:</cite>
<time>00:07:30</time>
<p>Oh, George Washington.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Radio:</cite>
<time>00:07:32</time>
<p>Roger George Washington.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Radio:</cite>
<time>00:07:44</time>
<p>Ambulance, I the, uh,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:07:48</time>
<p>The president will walk himself into the emergency room.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:07:51</time>
<p>Oh, I didn't realize that.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:07:52</time>
<p>So he does make a good show and then as soon as he gets laid down</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:07:55</time>
<p>on the gurney and they realized this seriousness of this they don't put him</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:08:00</time>
<p>under until Nancy Reagan gets there.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:08:02</time>
<p>Oh my gosh.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:08:02</time>
<p>And says, says, Something to him and he says, I forgot to duck.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:08:06</time>
<p>That's what he told.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:08:07</time>
<p>I'm sorry, honey, I forgot to duck.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:08:09</time>
<p>Yeah, and so if you see on the, on, on the screen here, if you're</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:08:14</time>
<p>watching the live stream, you can see this is us at the emergency room.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:08:17</time>
<p>This is at us, at the Washington.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:08:19</time>
<p>Hospital.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:08:20</time>
<p>So this is across the street and then up here, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:08:23</time>
<p>It's Rogan, Ronald Reagan, Institute of Emergency Medicine.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:08:25</time>
<p>So</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:08:25</time>
<p>he goes into the, he walks himself into the emergency room.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:08:27</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:08:27</time>
<p>So</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:08:27</time>
<p>They named it after him.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:08:29</time>
<p>I don't know when they did that, but it was neat.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:08:31</time>
<p>Again, just being right there, like the George Washington, university hospital.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:08:34</time>
<p>So Nancy comes in, he tells her I forgot to duck,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:08:37</time>
<p>which I think is really funny.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:08:38</time>
<p>But I, what I, one of the things I really love about Reagan, he</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:08:42</time>
<p>keeps his morale up and he keeps people around him, his morale up.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:08:47</time>
<p>So before he goes in for surgery and before they put him under,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:08:51</time>
<p>he looks around at all this.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:08:53</time>
<p>The medical staff and the surgeon, and he says, I hope you're all Republicans.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:08:59</time>
<p>Yeah, I know you, you love that story.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:09:01</time>
<p>I love that story.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:09:02</time>
<p>And because the head surgeon, who's actually a Democrat Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:09:05</time>
<p>Says Mr.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:09:05</time>
<p>President, we're all republicans today.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:09:07</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:09:08</time>
<p>I love that a democrat would say that to him to put his mind at</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:09:11</time>
<p>ease.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:09:12</time>
<p>And that's a, and it's.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:09:14</time>
<p>I love it because it's so stereotypical of Reagan too.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:09:17</time>
<p>That's what he was known for.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:09:18</time>
<p>We were doing our research on Reagan.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:09:19</time>
<p>We were watching videos and they talked about all the time, like how he</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:09:22</time>
<p>would crack jokes during his speech.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:09:27</time>
<p>Mr.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:09:27</time>
<p>Speaker, Mr.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:09:29</time>
<p>President, distinguished members of the Congress, honored</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:09:32</time>
<p>guests and fellow citizens.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:09:36</time>
<p>Today marks my first State of the Union address to you, a constitutional</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:09:41</time>
<p>duty as old as our republic itself.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:09:44</time>
<p>President Washington began this tradition in 17.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:09:49</time>
<p>After reminding the nation that the destiny of self-government</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:09:54</time>
<p>and the preservation of the sacred fire of liberty is finally staked</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:09:59</time>
<p>on the experiment entrusted to the hands of the American people.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:10:04</time>
<p>For our friends in the press who plays a high premium on accuracy.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:10:08</time>
<p>Let me say, I did not actually hear George Washington say that.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:10:15</time>
<p>Like un unlike a lot of his predecessors, before him.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:10:18</time>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:10:18</time>
<p>And So even in that time, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:10:20</time>
<p>He's getting ready to go under for surgery.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:10:22</time>
<p>He's cracking jokes.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:10:23</time>
<p>So it just really encapsulates him in his persona right then and there.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:10:28</time>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:10:28</time>
<p>And so he will go under surgery.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:10:30</time>
<p>They will find the bullet.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:10:31</time>
<p>They will patch 'em up.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:10:33</time>
<p>We read that the Oscars were supposed to air that night, so</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:10:37</time>
<p>they delay the Oscars for one night because the president had actually</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:10:41</time>
<p>recorded a message for the Oscars.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:10:46</time>
<p>Thank</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:10:46</time>
<p>you very much.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:10:46</time>
<p>Ladies and gentlemen, I'm sure that all of you here, and most of you watching</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:10:50</time>
<p>tonight, understand why we had delayed this program for 24 hours because of</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:10:55</time>
<p>the incredible events of yesterday.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:10:57</time>
<p>That old adage, the show must go on, seemed relatively unimportant.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:02</time>
<p>The Academy, ABC Television, and all of us connected with the show.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:05</time>
<p>Felt because of the uncertain outcome.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:08</time>
<p>As of this time yesterday, it would've been inappropriate to stage a celebration,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:13</time>
<p>but the news today is very good.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:14</time>
<p>As you know, the president is in excellent condition.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:16</time>
<p>At last reports, he's been conducting</p>
<p></p>
<cite>crowd:</cite>
<time>00:11:18</time>
<p>business</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:11:21</time>
<p>and he's, uh,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:22</time>
<p>and he happens to be in very good spirits.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:24</time>
<p>Uh, after all, you must remember, this is a man who, y.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:27</time>
<p>While he was in the hospital, unable to speak, wrote on a sheet</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:30</time>
<p>of paper, all things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:35</time>
<p>So tonight the show does go on.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:37</time>
<p>Now, two weeks ago, president Reagan videotaped an opening</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:42</time>
<p>greeting for this occasion.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:43</time>
<p>We were in contact with the White House about two hours ago, and it</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:46</time>
<p>was the President's express wishes that we use for that introduction.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:50</time>
<p>And I might add, uh, you might like to know that he also asked</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:11:53</time>
<p>for a television set in his room so he could view this program.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>crowd:</cite>
<time>00:11:57</time>
<p>I was, uh,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:12:06</time>
<p>actually the president was in such good form today.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:12:08</time>
<p>I was very tempted to call him and ask him if he had any more of</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:12:11</time>
<p>those one liners that I could use.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:12:14</time>
<p>So it is especially pleasing tonight, ladies and gentlemen, to be able to</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Johnny Carson:</cite>
<time>00:12:17</time>
<p>say, Here is the President of the United</p>
<p></p>
<cite>crowd:</cite>
<time>00:12:20</time>
<p>States</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:12:21</time>
<p>to my fellow Americans eagerly awaiting the presentation</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:12:24</time>
<p>of the 53rd Annual Academy Awards.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:12:27</time>
<p>It's surely no state's secret that Nancy and I share your interest in</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:12:30</time>
<p>the results of this year's balloting.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:12:33</time>
<p>We're not alone.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:12:34</time>
<p>The miracle of American technology links us with millions of movie goers around.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:12:39</time>
<p>It's the motion picture that shows us all, not only how we look and sound,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:12:44</time>
<p>but more important how we feel when it achieves its most noble intent.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:12:49</time>
<p>Film reveals that people everywhere share common dreams and emotions.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:12:54</time>
<p>Tonight, I applaud all who create, make, distribute, exhibit and attend movies.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:13:00</time>
<p>I salute the academy for the influence its work has on the</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:13:03</time>
<p>world's most enduring art form.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:13:05</time>
<p>Film is forever.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:13:07</time>
<p>I've been trapped in some film forever myself and as a</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:13:12</time>
<p>former member of the academy.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:13:14</time>
<p>I ask you now to join Nancy and me in enjoying this year's ceremonies.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:19</time>
<p>The one thing that was scheduled that didn't get</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:21</time>
<p>canceled was the NCAA basketball.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:25</time>
<p>Championship was playing that night.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:27</time>
<p>That same night.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:27</time>
<p>That same night.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:28</time>
<p>Oh, wow.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:28</time>
<p>And they didn't delay that, but they did have a moment</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:31</time>
<p>of silence for the president.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:33</time>
<p>Wow.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:33</time>
<p>He's only there for 11 days and he, again, the this is an interesting</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:38</time>
<p>time in the country too because things are happening fast, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:42</time>
<p>This is this assassination attempt.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:44</time>
<p>President's shot, president's going in for surgery, so people</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:47</time>
<p>are like, Who's in charge?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:49</time>
<p>George Bush is hearing about this in the air.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:52</time>
<p>He's on Air Force two.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:53</time>
<p>So he is hearing about this in the air, and this is when you get the speaker</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:57</time>
<p>of House who makes that statement?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:59</time>
<p>I'm in control.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:00</time>
<p>And there are.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:01</time>
<p>Absolutely no alert measures that are necessary at this time or contemplate.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:09</time>
<p>Uh, now if you have some questions, I'd be happy to take them.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:12</time>
<p>Who's making the decision?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:13</time>
<p>Constitutionally gentlemen, you have the president, the vice president,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:19</time>
<p>and the Secretary of State in that order, and should the president decide</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:23</time>
<p>he wants to transfer the helm to the vice president, he, he will do so.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:28</time>
<p>As of now, I am in control here in the White House, pending return</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:33</time>
<p>of the vice president and in, in close touch with him, if something</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:37</time>
<p>came up, I would check with him.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:38</time>
<p>Of course.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:39</time>
<p>. Jenn: And he'll say, I'm in control.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:42</time>
<p>And people go, what?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:43</time>
<p>That's not how it works.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:45</time>
<p>Speaker of the house is third in line.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:46</time>
<p>So he says, I'm in control.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:48</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:49</time>
<p>And so that's too funny.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:50</time>
<p>Bush is like in the air.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:51</time>
<p>He's what?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:52</time>
<p>What?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:52</time>
<p>I still exist, say hello.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:54</time>
<p>So that happens.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Alexander Haig:</cite>
<time>00:14:55</time>
<p>But another thing that's happening in 81 at the time is news coverage.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:15:02</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:15:02</time>
<p>It was so this recording the early end of that CNN type</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:06</time>
<p>era.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:06</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:06</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:06</time>
<p>C this is CNN's first year.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:08</time>
<p>And so N B C was there, a, B, C was there.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:13</time>
<p>That's where you're getting the cov, the very good angle of everything</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:16</time>
<p>that's happening and CNN starts to play.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:22</time>
<p>Over and over again.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:24</time>
<p>And CNN runs it for full 24 hours with updates as they go.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:29</time>
<p>And some of the things they get wrong is they get wrong that Brady was killed.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:33</time>
<p>And it takes a while before they realize that Brady was not killed.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:35</time>
<p>So that's one of the first things they do report.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:37</time>
<p>But what happens is it really cements CNN as being a place to go for very.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:45</time>
<p>To date.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:46</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:46</time>
<p>And</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:15:46</time>
<p>just kind of minute by minute, 24 hour news.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:15:48</time>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:15:48</time>
<p>If</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:49</time>
<p>you wanna go for good coverage actual up to date coverage.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:52</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:53</time>
<p>The CNN was the place to go that, like I said, they only been</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:15:55</time>
<p>around for a year, but doing this</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:15:57</time>
<p>I'm sure that was, they were like the place.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:15:59</time>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:15:59</time>
<p>Because every oth all the other.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:16:01</time>
<p>Typical networks would take breaks.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:16:03</time>
<p>They would go to their other programming and this, that and the other.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:16:06</time>
<p>And this is, this event happens.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:16:07</time>
<p>It was laid their foundation of yes, this is what we do.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:16:10</time>
<p>Now when we talk.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:16:13</time>
<p>Hinckley the shooter.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:16:15</time>
<p>A lot of people, John Hinckley Jr.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:16:17</time>
<p>Who is the one who fires, has gone at the president and eventually will kill.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:16:24</time>
<p>Brady he says he does it to get the attention of Jodi Foster.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:16:29</time>
<p>He had seen Jodi Foster a taxi driver, and he was very enamored with her.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:16:34</time>
<p>And so he thought if he did this, he could bring attention to himself.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:16:39</time>
<p>Jodi Foster in return has only ever spoken about this four</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:16:43</time>
<p>times.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:16:43</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:16:43</time>
<p>I thought this was really, I thought this was interesting, and I, and</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:16:46</time>
<p>when you said that to me, I was.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:16:47</time>
<p>I don't blame that.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:16:48</time>
<p>I</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:16:48</time>
<p>don't blame her.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jodi Foster:</cite>
<time>00:16:49</time>
<p>I don't wanna jeopardize the prosecution</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jodi Foster:</cite>
<time>00:16:52</time>
<p>without, without getting specific.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jodi Foster:</cite>
<time>00:16:53</time>
<p>Was he threatening amorous?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jodi Foster:</cite>
<time>00:16:55</time>
<p>What was he like?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jodi Foster:</cite>
<time>00:16:56</time>
<p>I'm not allowed to say, um, I, I believe that it's, you know, that</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jodi Foster:</cite>
<time>00:17:01</time>
<p>the, the letters were assumed to have been, you know, loved type lips.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jodi Foster:</cite>
<time>00:17:05</time>
<p>When did you first realize the connection between the Hinckley and the letters</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jodi Foster:</cite>
<time>00:17:08</time>
<p>and the Hinckley who shot the president?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jodi Foster:</cite>
<time>00:17:11</time>
<p>Um, well, how many Hinckley do you know?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:16</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:16</time>
<p>She doesn't wanna give attention to him.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:19</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:20</time>
<p>She doesn't want him to get what he wanted from her.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:23</time>
<p>So she spoke about it immediately after she did an op-ed and wrote about</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:28</time>
<p>it, and she spoke about it to others.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:30</time>
<p>Times and interviews.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:31</time>
<p>She's asked about it and she commented on it.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:33</time>
<p>She will go out of her way to cancel interviews or walk out of</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:38</time>
<p>interviews if they ask her about this.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:40</time>
<p>And she has told them that she's not gonna speak on it.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:43</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:43</time>
<p>To the point, like she doesn't wanna give it power.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:47</time>
<p>Sure.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:47</time>
<p>She doesn't wanna give Hinckley</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:17:48</time>
<p>power.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:17:49</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:17:49</time>
<p>I can understand that.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:17:50</time>
<p>Let's, so what you know, for obvious.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:17:54</time>
<p>Hinckley was captured.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:17:55</time>
<p>I I'll be perfectly honest, I don't actually know what</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:17:57</time>
<p>ended up happening to him.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:17:58</time>
<p>I know he was convicted, pled insanity plan,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:00</time>
<p>insanity, which is of course he's insane.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:03</time>
<p>I wanna be like, it's kinda, kinda obvious.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:05</time>
<p>You're insane.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:06</time>
<p>But because no one I think died.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:09</time>
<p>So I think at the time, no one was killed.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:12</time>
<p>Right when it happened.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:12</time>
<p>Right when it happened.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:18:13</time>
<p>So I even though Brady, passed away later,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:15</time>
<p>later, much later, okay.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:16</time>
<p>Even though nobody was killed, he could plead insanity.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:18</time>
<p>He was put in, he was institutionalized.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:20</time>
<p>He was just recently released.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:22</time>
<p>Oh, really?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:23</time>
<p>And it's because the president is dead.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:25</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:25</time>
<p>Now Reagan is dead and Brady, so they, and I think he's very</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:29</time>
<p>limited in where he can go and he's very watched and monitored, but</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:18:34</time>
<p>yes, he's, I'm surprised.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:18:36</time>
<p>I don't think I even realized that.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:37</time>
<p>I know it's, it is interest.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:39</time>
<p>But yeah, James Brady will never recover from this.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:42</time>
<p>He's disabled.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:44</time>
<p>He will maintain.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:45</time>
<p>Press Secretary for the rest of the year.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:47</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:47</time>
<p>But it's more of a positional Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:49</time>
<p>Title.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:49</time>
<p>Sure.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:49</time>
<p>Because he will be in a wheelchair and it will impact his speech.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:54</time>
<p>And then he passes away in of August of 2014.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:59</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:59</time>
<p>And I, like I said, the medical examiner will rule it a homicide because he will</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:04</time>
<p>succumb to the injuries that he received from that gunshot wound to the head.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:07</time>
<p>Tim McCarthy is still alive, the secret servant that Adrian got shot in the chest.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:10</time>
<p>Oh wow.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:11</time>
<p>Had three children afterwards.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:13</time>
<p>And the police officer Tom Delaney is also still.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:19</time>
<p>Who was shot in the back?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:20</time>
<p>One thing that I thought was interesting is the President's</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:22</time>
<p>approval rating goes up after</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:19:24</time>
<p>this.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:19:24</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:19:24</time>
<p>I'm not, that's not super surprising.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:19:27</time>
<p>People rally around.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:19:28</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:19:29</time>
<p>You A horrible event like that.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:19:30</time>
<p>People, it doesn't matter what your, if you disagree with</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:19:33</time>
<p>Reaganomics at the time or not.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:19:35</time>
<p>People are gonna rally around something that's, obviously Hey,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:19:38</time>
<p>you can't be shooting the president.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:39</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:39</time>
<p>And I think people, again, Reagan, he's such a good.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:45</time>
<p>Communicator.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:46</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:46</time>
<p>And so he's so good with people and putting them at ease and building morale.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:49</time>
<p>Yep.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:50</time>
<p>That I think people saw, just the way he handled the whole thing.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:54</time>
<p>I think when he comes out of surgery, he asks, does anyone know</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:58</time>
<p>what the shooter's beef was like?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:00</time>
<p>He was very good on off the cuff.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:03</time>
<p>He delivers a line well, and he's a actor, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:05</time>
<p>So when you think about it, like he was very good at giving speeches.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:09</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:09</time>
<p>He was very good at making the country feel at ease.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:12</time>
<p>I remember when the Challenger disaster happens and he speaks to America,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:20:16</time>
<p>Ladies and gentlemen, I'd plan to speak to you tonight to</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:20:19</time>
<p>report in the State of the Union, but the events of earlier today</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:20:22</time>
<p>have led me to change those plans.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:20:26</time>
<p>Today is a day from mourning and remembering.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:20:29</time>
<p>Nancy and I are pain to the core, but the tragedy of the shuttle challenger,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:20:33</time>
<p>we know we share this pain with all of the people of our country.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Reagan:</cite>
<time>00:20:37</time>
<p>This is truly a national loss.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:40</time>
<p>He was just one of those great deliver.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:43</time>
<p>Of, an orator.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:44</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:45</time>
<p>Basically.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:45</time>
<p>What another thing that I thought was interesting is the Dow Jones</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:49</time>
<p>dips the next day, but it pops right back up after he comes outta surgery.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:20:53</time>
<p>Oh, interesting.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:20:54</time>
<p>So just of a little market uncertainty.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:56</time>
<p>And I don't think there's been a assassination</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:58</time>
<p>attempt on the president since.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:21:01</time>
<p>Not that I am aware of.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:21:02</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:21:02</time>
<p>Not that, not that the public is aware of.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:21:03</time>
<p>But there hasn't been something that was so close.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:21:07</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:21:07</time>
<p>And the president actually got bodily harmed from.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:21:10</time>
<p>Yeah, so it was very, it was a neat story to do.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:13</time>
<p>But it was super fun and we wanted to, we made the extra effort</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:16</time>
<p>tonight to come on a little bit later and do this on the anniversary, even</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:20</time>
<p>though we haven't made the video.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:21</time>
<p>So I know even less than I normally would because normally I do all my</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:24</time>
<p>learning when I'm editing those videos.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:26</time>
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<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:29</time>
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<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:33</time>
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<time>00:21:40</time>
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<time>00:21:44</time>
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<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:48</time>
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<time>00:21:49</time>
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