Guardians of the Purple Heart - Our interview on the Cover Down podcast - Talk With History

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The Purple Heart Medal is presented to service members who have

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been wounded or killed as a result of enemy action while serving in the U.

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S.

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military.

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A Purple Heart is a solemn distinction and means a service member has greatly

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sacrificed themselves or paid the ultimate price while in the line of duty.

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According to the National Purple Heart Hall of Honor, more than 1.

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8 million Purple Heart Medals have been presented to service

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members since the award was created in 1782 by George Washington.

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It started off as the badge of military merit and eventually evolved into

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the Purple Heart Medal we know today.

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The Purple Heart is the oldest military award still presented to American

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service members and was one of the first military medals given to all ranks.

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This is why we were honored to join some of the leaders of an organization

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called the Guardians of the Purple Heart.

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The Guardians of the Purple Heart is a group of veterans, family members, and

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spouses who want to make a difference for the combat wounded servicemen and

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women in the state of Connecticut.

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In 2016, the organization helped their first Purple Heart recipient,

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Vietnam vet Clarence Hook.

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From there, the organization and concept took flight.

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The Guardians of the Purple Heart is a 501c3 non profit that specializes

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in obtaining items or services for Connecticut and Rhode Island, and

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Combat wounded vets that are not being met by other organizations.

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They recently asked us to be guests on our podcast titled cover

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down on the cover down podcast.

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They talk to fellow veterans, discuss the progress of their organization

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and keep things honest and authentic.

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We were honored to join them and wanted to share our conversation with our audience.

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If you enjoy the host as much as we did go check out the cover down podcast

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on YouTube or anywhere you listen.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
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Now, today we're going to learn all kinds of fun facts about history.

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Like for instance, uh, why the Roman empire split because of a pair of Caesars.

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Roll the intro.

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I'm not going to lie.

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It wasn't my best joke, but I liked it.

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I liked it.

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Let's get everybody in the room real quick.

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How's it going guys?

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Good.

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Good.

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Yeah.

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Thank you so much for having us on tonight.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
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Yeah, no, it's a, it's an absolute pleasure.

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For so, for, for, uh, Our audience who doesn't know, um, this is Scott

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and Jen from an amazing YouTube channel called Walking with History.

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Um, I love history.

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I grew up around it.

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Uh, it is part of my DNA and actually a really close bond I have with my dad.

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Uh, so naturally I gravitate to kind of stuff like that.

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I think his channel is awesome.

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Um, And yeah, it's, it's been a lot of fun getting to talk about some cool

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stuff, getting to know you guys and have our audience, you know, come and

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hopefully watch some of your content.

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Um, especially since we're talking to fellow veterans.

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Right on.

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That's right.

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So that's pretty awesome.

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Doug, uh, how's, uh, how's your history?

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Is it, is it

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good?

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So I'll be honest, history was never my strong suit.

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It was never, it was one of those subjects in class that I was just

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like, all right, let's get on with it.

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It's nothing as exciting here, but I will have to say wholeheartedly the way that

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you describe History it, it's intriguing.

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Like I'm actually paying attention and learning stuff.

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And I was like, man, I'm actually, I'm getting smarter now.

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Seth is going to love this one.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
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So, so Doug, I mean, I'll have to, I'll have to be honest.

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So for your audience, for those who don't know us, I'm

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Scott and this is my wife, Jen.

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So, so Jen's the historian.

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I met, I married into like the history nerddom in this, in this house.

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And my goal kind of, and I'm the producer editor, you know,

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extraordinary behind the scenes for, for the vast majority of our videos.

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Um, and so I'm actually learning while I'm making it because I am

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not a history buff whatsoever.

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I was much like you, Doug, when I was in high school, like history

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wasn't, I had, I had one great history teacher, shout out to Mr.

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Beck in San Dimas high school.

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Um, but, uh, you know, it was not my, my cup of tea.

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This one right here is the one who kind of, you know, kind of get got this off

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the ground and we team up together.

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Yeah, I kind of grew into it, guys.

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So, you know, I was in the Navy.

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And, you know, going over to the Middle East for the first time,

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I wanted to know more, right?

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Like, what's going on?

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Why do these?

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Why are people these deep rooted?

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Hostilities going on.

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I wanted to understand more of it.

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And every time we pulled into port to it became my job to kind of put out the brief

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to the whole crew of where we were going.

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What's the history of the area?

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What kind of money do they use?

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What kind of tours do you want to see here?

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So I kind of got immersed in that kind of history.

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That would have been nice for me to have.

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I just got told the places I wasn't allowed to go.

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Yeah.

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That's probably

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what you heard.

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And I'm, I'm, I'm pretty confident.

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They probably said some other things.

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You just heard all the places you weren't allowed to go so

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that you could go there later.

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You

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might be right on that one.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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Believe me.

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I've, I've walked into a couple of establishments and I'm like, Oh,

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there's my guy right over there.

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Yes.

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So then coming back, uh, after deployment and after getting out

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of the military, I used my GI bill because I hadn't had kids yet.

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So I hadn't given it to them.

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And I went back to school to get a master's of history.

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I wanted to understand how do people study this?

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How do people, you know, quantitate it?

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Cause you know, talk about science and math.

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I knew that, but how do you, how did, how does something in history

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gain fact, gain truth, have merit?

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And so I went back to grad school and, uh, I graduated 20 years after my undergrad.

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I felt like the old lady there.

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But it was, it was, it was great.

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I actually went back to school and I got the master's degree of history.

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And then what do you do with that?

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Right.

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You're married to an active duty officer.

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We move around every three years.

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It's hard to keep a job.

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So why not do a YouTube channel?

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It moves around, right?

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It kind of, it's it fit.

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And so we move around and so then our radius can change.

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We can take you there.

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And like you said, Doug, why I try to emphasize, why does this matter to you?

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Right?

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What's the point?

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Why am I telling you this story?

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Because history will impact you, whether or not you realize it, right?

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It's having an impact on you.

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So I try to do that.

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I try to connect the dots.

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So why should you care about this and tell interesting stories along the way,

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motivational stories, a lot of like unsung heroes of Gettysburg or civil

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war, things like that, things that we can kind of, you know, aspire to

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or hear about and, and as a patriot, kind of like, what are we defending?

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Right.

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Who has defended before us?

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What have they done before us?

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And what are we defending now and looking forward into the future?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
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That's awesome.

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Doug, you think you can get on board with that?

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Maybe like it's gonna, it's gonna take, it's gonna take a little bit.

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Cause I mean, Like I said, it was just, and I think you hit the nail on the head.

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Like I was sitting there in class and I was like, what is the point of this?

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Mm-Hmm.

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, you know, I was 38 when I went back to college.

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Mm-Hmm.

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. I walked, I was older than probably about 90% of my professors.

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And I'd walk in a class and it'd be this old crusty dude

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teaching, you know, history.

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And I'm just sitting there like, why do I have to take this?

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Mm-Hmm.

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. This isn't interesting whatsoever.

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Now I'll admit there was certain points where I was like, oh, okay, that's.

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That's kind of cool.

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But at the end of the day, I was like, this is just draining for me.

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I know.

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And it shouldn't feel that way.

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It should feel invigorating.

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It should feel exciting.

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I try to make it fun.

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And like, we're here, we're standing where George Washington

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stood where he touched that.

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Like I stand on Jimmy Stewart's porch.

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I'm like, I'm on Jimmy Stewart's porch.

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And

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that's cool stuff.

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I mean, so my, my biggest thing in life was the areas of the

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world that I wanted to travel to.

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I wanted to travel to ancient places.

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I wanted to travel to places with that were very old.

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And growing up in New England, specifically, uh, in York, Maine.

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All right.

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We're pretty old there.

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All right.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
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But you're only ever going to be like two, 300 years old, you

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know, in the night United States.

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Right.

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So unless you start really going back further and actually in York,

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Maine, we have a world treasure that most people don't know about.

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I'll go to that in a second, but, um, Yeah, just having all that history around.

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And so naturally when I was in the Navy and I would hit a port, like two on

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France, I was lucky enough to have a buddy that could speak fluent French.

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Uh, I was walking through this, uh, beautiful stone archway that

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kind of looked like a bridge, but it didn't really go anywhere.

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And there was a plaque on the side and asked him to read it.

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And he said that this is where Napoleon marched through to retake France.

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And I lost it.

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I'm like, I'm staying, I'm standing where Napoleon Bonaparte.

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Marched his army back through from, from Italy, if I can remember correctly.

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And I just thought that was the coolest thing in the world.

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And so for me, it was, if I can go to places that have

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history, the older, the better.

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So I'd love to go to places like Egypt.

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You know what?

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I'll go to any country that has like the, what are the, the UNESCO

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world heritage sites, right?

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Those, those things where it's like, we'll never demolish these in the world

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because it's part of human history.

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Those places are fascinating to me.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
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And I just, I would love to go.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
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But you have a.

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specific, um, uh, kind of wheelhouse and then it's American history.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
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So that's, I got my masters in that because if you do world history,

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you have to speak a foreign language.

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And if you know me, I barely mastered English.

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So there's no way I'm speaking another language.

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You should see me.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
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Even when we go to France, thank God, Scott can read French.

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I try to read it phonetically.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
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I look like the biggest, Moron.

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So I do not even try to open my mouth.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
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Um, so I did American history because it made it easy.

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I only have to know English.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
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So that's kind of why I centered on that mostly.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:10:44</time>
Now you can't really study American history without knowing

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:10:48</time>
world history too, because you're going to be impacted, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:10:50</time>
Like even Napoleon is impacting America.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:10:53</time>
Uh, you know, America's impacting other countries at the same time.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:10:57</time>
So you have to really understand world history at the same time.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:11:00</time>
You're just not emphasizing it as much.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:11:02</time>
I mean, Frederick

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:11:03</time>
Bastier, I think was his name, was a lot French philosopher

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:11:07</time>
and writer that we based a lot of our, the, the sense of our laws.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:11:11</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:11:11</time>
Around some of his work wasn't American.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:11:14</time>
Nope.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:11:14</time>
The enlightenment was, yeah, it was basically coming from the French.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:11:18</time>
And so you, so you're, it's America is really is studying world history.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:11:23</time>
It is impacted by it.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:11:25</time>
So even though I, I emphasize the American and even our channel is

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:11:29</time>
mostly in 80th anniversary of D Day.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:11:35</time>
So I'm going to be in Normandy, so, and I'm going to hit Paris.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:11:39</time>
So we do venture out a little bit.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:11:41</time>
If we can get out there, uh, it does still connect to America.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:11:47</time>
So, but I do try to get in other places, but really we do, we do, uh,

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:11:52</time>
really center on American history.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:11:55</time>
That's awesome.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:11:55</time>
Doug, what was the, what was the oldest place you went America or abroad?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:11:59</time>
I

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:12:02</time>
have to say it was, um, when I was in Baghdad, Iraq and, uh, yeah, I

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:12:07</time>
did, uh, visited the, the cross swords.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:12:11</time>
So I will say on the history aspect, it's kind of cool to know that.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:12:18</time>
You know, in years to come when, when, uh, school kids are reading

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:12:21</time>
about like the, uh, the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and, and all that.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:12:26</time>
Uh, and they, and even to this day, when I see on Facebook, like people

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:12:30</time>
posting pictures of the cross swords and everything, and I'm like, man, I was

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:12:33</time>
there, like I climbed up the top and, and I, I looked down from the handle

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:12:37</time>
and whatnot, it's cool to know that you are a part of that and to, you know,

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:12:42</time>
to Place your feet like right where like Saddam Hussein was and not saying

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:12:47</time>
that he was great or anything But just knowing that you were there in the same

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:12:51</time>
spot I mean, that's kind of cool, but that's the oldest spot that I've been to.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:12:56</time>
Oh, yeah That's one of the oldest beginnings of

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:12:59</time>
civilization Middle East, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:01</time>
And and

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:13:01</time>
for me, that's that's Kind of a future goal is like Seth, like

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:13:05</time>
you were saying, is, is for us to be able to do more world travel, right?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:13:09</time>
You know, I've, I've got plenty of time, you know, hope, knock on wood

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:13:12</time>
left, left in the, in the Navy.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:13:14</time>
Um, but you know, we're building this channel now to kind of build it into a

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:13:19</time>
little bit of a business so that I can hopefully make, make some money and,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:13:23</time>
and supplement retirement so that when our kids are out of the house, then

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:13:25</time>
we can run off and kind of do this.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:13:27</time>
You know, as for retirement, you know, with supporting it with some income,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:13:32</time>
we've got some other stuff that we're kind of, kind of slowly building

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:13:35</time>
on the side and stuff like that as part of this kind of history thing.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:13:38</time>
So,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:13:39</time>
well, I'm 100 percent for a, for a history channel campaign.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:13:42</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:13:44</time>
Well, I mean, you guys, you guys, one, you definitely

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:13:46</time>
got the, uh, the cadence.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:13:49</time>
Right.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:13:49</time>
And the voices for it and the knowledge.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:13:52</time>
And I think that the, the duo thing is awesome.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:13:54</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:13:55</time>
So I don't see why they wouldn't pick it up.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:13:57</time>
Honestly.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:13:58</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:13:58</time>
What we, we, we joke all the time with, with our subscribers and we do it more

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:14:02</time>
on our podcast, talk with history, but we say, Hey guys, we're only, you

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:14:06</time>
know, the YouTube channel is only like.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:14:07</time>
10.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:14:08</time>
5 million subscribers away from beating the history channel.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:14:11</time>
Like, let's pick up the pace.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:14:13</time>
We're only 10, 11 million subscribers and we're coming after you history channel.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:14:18</time>
Like let's bring history back to the history channel.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:14:20</time>
Bring history back to the history channel.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:14:21</time>
Yeah, right.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:22</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:22</time>
Can we get rid of ancient aliens and pond stars and all the conspiracy shows?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:27</time>
It's like, you don't believe in

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:14:28</time>
aliens.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:30</time>
All right.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:30</time>
We're not done.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:33</time>
They're a part of history in front of my friends.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:36</time>
It's

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:14:36</time>
some history, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:14:37</time>
Area 51.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:39</time>
It's true.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:39</time>
Blue book.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:40</time>
Right.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:41</time>
Very true.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:41</time>
That is very true.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:43</time>
Um, so a little bit for myself because, um, like the Doug said, he's never

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:48</time>
been a humongous fan of history, but fully understand because the things

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:51</time>
he's our fans of, he educates me on.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:54</time>
Um, what would that be?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:55</time>
Besides pizza?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:56</time>
Pizza.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:56</time>
Pizza.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:14:58</time>
Well, you educate me on how someone can consistently believe there's

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:15:01</time>
no dinosaurs or the earth is flat

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:15:03</time>
telling

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:15:03</time>
you all my evidence

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:15:06</time>
is stacked and you just can't argue in a

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:15:08</time>
hoodie.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:15:08</time>
My friend, I'm telling you just can't

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:15:10</time>
argue it, son.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:15:11</time>
That's what that's what you get annoyed with is that you try to be the smart

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:15:14</time>
one and then I drop knowledge on you.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:15:17</time>
And you're just like, I have nothing because he's right game set match aliens.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:15:22</time>
Yeah,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:15:23</time>
this is Doug.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:15:24</time>
Um, so for myself, history has been, has been kind of a huge part of my life.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:15:29</time>
Um, one of the fondest memories I have is, uh, my dad sharing me, sharing

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:15:36</time>
with me the story of Leonidas and the 300 and the battle of Thermopylae.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:15:41</time>
Um, Before I even knew that Frank Miller wrote a comic about it and eventually

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:15:46</time>
gets turned into a movie, right?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:15:47</time>
So he would tell me all these, these, these stories of, of

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:15:50</time>
ancient Rome and ancient Greece.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:15:53</time>
And, uh, cause he was a big ancient history buff and I

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:15:56</time>
would find them fascinating.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:15:57</time>
So like when you're a little boy and you're hearing all these crazy battles,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:00</time>
you know, how, 300 Spartans, you know, fended off the entire Persian army.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:05</time>
And then you come to realize it'd be like, well, the Persian army had wicker

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:08</time>
baskets as shields that I don't want to count, you know, but regardless,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:13</time>
you know, it, it, it was a lot of fun.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:15</time>
And so I started to gravitate more towards that.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:17</time>
I still have a book.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:18</time>
That's like three inches thick.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:19</time>
He gave me about the history of Rome.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:21</time>
And then I would start to notice things around my hometown of York, Maine.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:25</time>
That were very historical, like, uh, I think we have the oldest

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:28</time>
schoolhouse and the oldest jail house or one of the oldest jail houses.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:32</time>
Um, we have a crazy statue that's been there since 1906.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:37</time>
That has a lot of folklore around it, that it was a confederate soldier

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:40</time>
statue that was mixed up in transit.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:16:43</time>
Oh, interesting.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:45</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:45</time>
Um, and that, uh, when we asked to get ours back, the South had destroyed

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:16:49</time>
ours.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:16:50</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:51</time>
And, but we erected ours anyways.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:53</time>
Now, like I said, it is folklore, but there, there's certain things about

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:16:56</time>
the sculpture and the uniform of the soldier, which really was supposed to

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:17:00</time>
be dedicated to the, uh, the soldiers and sailors, uh, from that town that

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:17:06</time>
make it look somewhat Confederate, but it's not, but it's still fun folklore.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:17:10</time>
Yeah, sure.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:17:11</time>
And then I didn't even know this until two years ago, but apparently

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:17:17</time>
we've had a Viking ship under the beaches at short sands beach in

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:17:20</time>
York, Maine for hundreds of years.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:23</time>
Oh yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:17:24</time>
No way.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:17:25</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:17:25</time>
So every once in a while, um, I think the last time was like 40

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:17:29</time>
years ago, a big storm will come in and wash away all the sand.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:17:32</time>
And it'll actually, um, show the remnants of this Viking ship, how cool, and this

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:17:40</time>
code, and they never remove it because obviously it'd be too costly to sit there

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:17:43</time>
and so they just take the time to research as much as they can, and then they

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:17:48</time>
fill it back up and they let it go and they wait for another storm to come in.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:17:51</time>
So I would find all kinds of stuff like that.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:17:54</time>
Um, and it, it just kind of grew from there and I've loved history ever since.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:17:59</time>
And yes, yes, in fact, I did get a, I did get a D in history, you know,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:18:05</time>
but that was just because I either one wasn't there or two, I, I, uh, I just

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:18:10</time>
wasn't doing my homework, but I just.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:18:13</time>
It's such a great example for me and everything I, I like the materialistic

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:18:18</time>
things that I have that I kind of treasure the most all have history

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:18:22</time>
with it, uh, in some form or fashion.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:18:25</time>
I actually have a really good example right in front of me.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:18:26</time>
I'm a giant nerd.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:18:27</time>
If you can't notice from my background, I have this wonderful comic book.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:18:30</time>
It's super rare, but it's called something called Grenada.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:34</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:18:35</time>
Oh yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:18:35</time>
All right.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:18:36</time>
The only way you would ever got this book is if you were in Grenada because the

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:18:40</time>
CIA dropped thousands of copies of it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:18:43</time>
Uh, as propaganda, uh, under a, what was it?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:18:48</time>
Uh, it was a company called voice, which was the victims of

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:18:52</time>
international communist emissaries.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:18:55</time>
So like still it's a comic books, but that is, that is a piece of history, right?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:19:00</time>
Yeah,

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:01</time>
absolutely.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:19:01</time>
And so I, I, yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:19:03</time>
I loved it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:19:03</time>
I gravitated towards it and I wanted to have, um, so that's kind of

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:19:06</time>
just been my thing here and there.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:19:08</time>
And I agree.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:19:08</time>
I'd love to see you guys on the history channel instead of half

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:19:11</time>
the stuff that I see nowadays.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:19:14</time>
What happened in documentaries?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:15</time>
Exactly.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:16</time>
Or just, I mean, you probably got a D in history because history a lot

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:20</time>
of times is rote memorization, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:23</time>
People expect you to memorize things.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:24</time>
Dates and times and battles and the names, name me the first 20 presidents.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:30</time>
They made it for, you know, like it's hard, but if you make that stuff kind of

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:33</time>
fun and you want to remember, okay, what's leading into this, what's leading into

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:38</time>
this, what's influencing this next battle influencing this, like we just talked

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:42</time>
about the death of Meriwether Lewis.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:44</time>
Mary, Mary, Mary, where the Lewis decides to travel across land instead

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:48</time>
of down to New Orleans and get on a ship because he's afraid of impressments.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:53</time>
And the British, this is 1810, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:56</time>
That's what's going to pull us into the war of 1812 is the British keep

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:19:59</time>
impressing our sailors into their Navy.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:20:02</time>
And this is like Lewis of Lewis and Clark, Lewis

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:04</time>
and Clark.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:05</time>
So that's influencing him.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:07</time>
So if you think about that, and then he dies in 1809, like.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:11</time>
You can memorize dates if you understand how things are connected

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:15</time>
and influencing each other.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:17</time>
And that's how you make history fun.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:19</time>
It's like, Oh, because these people aren't just operating in a vacuum.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:22</time>
Like they're influenced by the time as well.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:25</time>
So it's very interesting to see how things are just connected, especially

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:30</time>
American history, how all of our heroes and things we learn, they're kind

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:32</time>
of connected together with a string.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:34</time>
And if you kind of pull that string, you can understand how it's all connected.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:39</time>
working together.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:40</time>
Um, and I think that's what a good history.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:42</time>
teacher does.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:20:43</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:20:44</time>
My, my thing is, is that history is not black and white.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:47</time>
No, absolutely.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:20:48</time>
It

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:20:48</time>
is very, very gray.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:20:50</time>
And it's one of those ones where you're like, well, what, what caused this?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:20:54</time>
So you start to pull the string and then you shortly realize you, you're

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:20:57</time>
going to never stop pulling that

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:20:58</time>
string.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:20:58</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:20:59</time>
Like it just goes on and on and on.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:21:01</time>
It's continual chain reactions.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:03</time>
The context that's there behind anything.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:06</time>
Like we all have the stuff we learned in high school or that

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:10</time>
we didn't learn in high school.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:12</time>
Um, you know, in my case or maybe your guys case as well.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:16</time>
But the, One of the things is, is you get back into it or you start

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:20</time>
learning about a particular topic and you just kind of dive down the rabbit

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:23</time>
hole, whether it's on the internet or reading a book or whatever that is.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:27</time>
Um, we just interviewed, in fact, actually we'll give you this

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:30</time>
preview to our next week's video.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:32</time>
We, we interviewed, um, someone from the original cast of

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:35</time>
the Broadway play Hamilton.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:37</time>
So the guy who played George Washington, Christopher

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:39</time>
Jackson, um, we interviewed him.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:42</time>
And so he, he talks about how.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:45</time>
You know, with history, even he is, is learning and he, when he was researching

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:51</time>
Hamilton and George playing the role of George Washington, um, what he

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:55</time>
learned and kind of brought back to the surface, you know, he said that

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:21:58</time>
history is history as we learn it is something that kind of set out and

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:22:03</time>
it's just kind of dried out in the sun.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:22:06</time>
And it's kind of our job as historians or Jen's job or Uh, you know, somebody

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:22:11</time>
else's job to kind of bring that back to life, sprinkle some water

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:22:13</time>
on it and bring it back to life.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:22:14</time>
So you can learn more of that context because a lot of times

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:22:18</time>
we can learn a subject matter and just assume it is what it is.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:22:22</time>
But when there's so much more layer and depth, and like you

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:22:24</time>
said, you keep pulling that string, you're just going to keep pulling.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:22:29</time>
Yeah, I will have to say like, so.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:22:32</time>
I listened to, um, you were talking about Lewis and Clark.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:22:36</time>
I listened to that, that episode.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:22:38</time>
And just to give you an idea of just how, how well you teach it.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:22:43</time>
Uh, I listened to the entire thing and it was anticipating what was coming next.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:22:49</time>
And then, As I was sitting there listening to it, I was like, in this 9 to 12

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:22:54</time>
minutes of listening to this video, I have learned more in 9 to 12 minutes

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:00</time>
than I did in 4 years of high school.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:02</time>
Like, I didn't know he shot himself in the head and in the stomach, and

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:05</time>
then he was still alive and begging for water and all this other stuff,

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:08</time>
and I'm like, I'm like, Why are we not talking about this kind of stuff?

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:11</time>
Yeah, that's the stuff that I would remember,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:23:14</time>
right?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:23:14</time>
Yeah, absolutely.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:23:15</time>
I that's the best part of some of these.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:23:17</time>
Like you said, it's the story.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:23:19</time>
It's the story.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:23:20</time>
They're like, that's a crazy story.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:23</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:23</time>
And it takes a very unique person to be able to deliver a story

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:29</time>
like that, but then deliver it to where you're You're intrigued and

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:33</time>
anticipating like what's coming next.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:35</time>
So kudos to you.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:37</time>
Um, you have this very, what is it kind of like news broadcaster

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:41</time>
vibe, but like an interesting

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:23:44</time>
one.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:23:44</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:46</time>
It's like you watch all the newscasters and

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:49</time>
they're like today at seven.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:50</time>
And we're like, I'm like, shut up.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:51</time>
I don't care because you're going to spit nothing but garbage.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:55</time>
And then you come on and all of a sudden it's your intro.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:59</time>
So.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:23:59</time>
To what you're going to be talking about.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:24:01</time>
I little, no lie.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:24:03</time>
I got goosebumps and I was like, okay, something's going on here.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:08</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:09</time>
I mean, so that was the biggest thing I took from history because

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:11</time>
again, I went back to school, not even, but five years ago.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:16</time>
Right.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:16</time>
And I am, I consider myself a centralist, but I lean on the conservative side.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:21</time>
And when you talk about history, it's very left leaning and I.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:26</time>
Could hold my own actually graduated 4.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:29</time>
0.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:30</time>
I could hold my own and still make the argument because my whole stance was,

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:34</time>
I don't want to tell you what to think.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:36</time>
That's not my job.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:37</time>
My job is to tell you how, how do historians come up with this?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:41</time>
How do historians say that this is the fact?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:43</time>
This is the primary source.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:45</time>
This is what a person who was there who said this, what

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:48</time>
are you pulling out of this?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:50</time>
Like, that's what I do.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:52</time>
That's what a historian does.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:53</time>
A good historian presents you with all of that information.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:24:56</time>
And then you decide what to think.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:24:58</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:24:59</time>
It only works like at cert with certain groups though.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:01</time>
My daughter was asking me the other day.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:03</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:03</time>
Cause she, she was interested in that, the going ons of Israel and Palestine.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:08</time>
She's asking me like, well, why is this happening?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:12</time>
And I'm sitting there and go, well, I could tell you about the Balfour

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:14</time>
declaration, or I could just say they don't like each other and we can

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:18</time>
talk about this later, you know, but, but it goes back to the same thing.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:21</time>
Like you can, you can pull that string extremely far and

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:25</time>
you're never going to stop.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:25:26</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:25:27</time>
But

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:27</time>
to kind of harken off what, what Doug was saying on how you

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:31</time>
can really Captivate an audience.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:33</time>
Um, not just from, um, what you write for your script, but, but

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:36</time>
actually how, how you display it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:38</time>
So, so kudos to the producer.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:40</time>
Um, but

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:25:43</time>
there's

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:43</time>
a, there's a term, uh, it's called narrative history telling.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:47</time>
Are you familiar with that?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:49</time>
Probably.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:50</time>
One of the things that I love the most, um, there's a, there's a gentleman

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:54</time>
that I listened to as well, or he said that there's, you can only learn

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:25:58</time>
so much from digging up pots, right?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:00</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:00</time>
But if you can put yourself in a region of the world in one time period, like

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:04</time>
say you were going to put yourself, I don't know, in Venice, Italy in 1410,

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:26:10</time>
what

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:10</time>
would most likely be your occupation and when, depending

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:14</time>
on what your occupation is, who are you most likely trading with?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:26:17</time>
And

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:17</time>
if you're trading.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:18</time>
You know, what kind of other stuff's coming there?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:21</time>
So you can actually start to build a story, a narrative around simply.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:27</time>
Uh, starting somewhere.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:29</time>
What would it, what would it be like to, to live in a Roman outpost in Britannia?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:35</time>
You know, I just, I found that fascinating and it, it kinda was like, Oh, I, I

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:40</time>
have, I have a new way to learn history.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:42</time>
You know, I don't have to score over all these books, you know, or search

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:46</time>
for an interesting documentary.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:47</time>
I have people that are willing to tell a fictional story.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:50</time>
That's really, really interesting.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:51</time>
Factually based and, uh, and, and just tell the facts, you know,

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:26:55</time>
and

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:26:56</time>
that's simply it.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:26:57</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:26:57</time>
And I find, you know, another thing is, is we try to take our giants of

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:03</time>
history and kind of put them in a box.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:06</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:06</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:06</time>
Right.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:07</time>
Like, and I try to always open up.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:09</time>
I'm going to tell you about these amazing heroes, and I'm going to tell

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:12</time>
you about these evil, terrible people.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:14</time>
And sometimes they're going to be the same person.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:17</time>
And I want people to understand that these are humans.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:20</time>
I want to humanize these people because they are going to do amazing things.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:24</time>
And then they're going to do terrible things, just like any other person.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:27</time>
They're going to make good decisions and they're going to make bad decisions.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:30</time>
But I don't want to hide from either of those things.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:34</time>
Right.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:34</time>
And I think that's also what a good historian does.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:37</time>
I remember being at the Battle of the Bighorn and standing

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:40</time>
there and trying to tell people, this is what people are seeing.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:43</time>
They're seeing Crazy Horse right out in front and he's

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:46</time>
not getting hit by any bullets.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:48</time>
And it's so motivating for the rest of the American Indians to keep

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:52</time>
going because it's, think of George Washington riding out in front.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:54</time>
This is their leader and he's out there and he's, it seems divine.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:27:59</time>
That he's escaping all the bullets.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:28:01</time>
It just, to them, it seems like a sign.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:28:03</time>
And I want people to, to stand there and feel that what that feels like, but we

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:28:07</time>
don't, sometimes we don't talk about those people in history because we don't want to

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:28:11</time>
put them in those places, but they deserve to be there because they did do that.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:28:16</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:28:16</time>
And, and.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:28:16</time>
And that's been one of the fun things about the YouTube channel, too, because,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:28:20</time>
you know, being in the military, right, you don't have too many artistic outlets,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:28:24</time>
right, you know, former ship, former ship guy, you know, not, you know, I'm

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:28:28</time>
sitting on a ship all day, you know, now, now I'm doing more desk stuff.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:28:32</time>
And, uh, this has been fun because, you know, While she's kind of pulling the

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:28:37</time>
facts and doing the research and saying, Hey, this is kind of what we're looking

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:28:40</time>
at at the same time over the past couple of years, we've learned that storytelling

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:28:45</time>
craft and we, you know, just through the process of putting out a video and seeing

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:28:49</time>
what works and seeing what before and all the feedback that you get from just, Hey,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:28:53</time>
I'm going to hit publish and we're going to see how it goes and and all the stuff.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:28:57</time>
You, you learn that.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:28:58</time>
And so it's been fun for both of us, right?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:29:00</time>
She's gotten a lot better on camera over the past couple of years.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:29:04</time>
I've gotten better with, you know, my amateur videography or editing and

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:29:09</time>
kind of that storytelling narrative and how to use music to transition and

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:29:13</time>
kind of give you the feel for it and everything, because it brings context.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:29:18</time>
And, and, uh, texture to that story.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:29:21</time>
And it really draws you in, like, like you were saying, Doug with Meriwether

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:29:24</time>
Lewis, because you're, you're there.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:29:26</time>
And so you're kind of like, Oh, it feels like I'm walking from behind this bush

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:29:29</time>
over towards the house where the guy shot himself and, and all that stuff.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:29:32</time>
You feel like you're watching, you feel like you're there kind of drawn into it.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:29:36</time>
It's captivating.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:29:37</time>
It's, and that's, what's been super, super fun, you know,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:29:39</time>
especially doing it together.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:29:41</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:29:41</time>
The music definitely does sell it though.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:29:43</time>
Like your background music.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:29:44</time>
It was not only do you feel the story, but you also feel like you're immersed in the

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:29:49</time>
story because the, the music just kind of brings you right back to that time period.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:29:54</time>
And then next thing you know, your 12 minutes is up.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:29:57</time>
And I'm just like, okay, what's the next video we're going to watch?

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:30:00</time>
Cause I need to learn something else now.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:30:02</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:30:02</time>
Finding the right music is one of my favorite things was one of my, I

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:30:05</time>
mean, editing for me takes, takes a while.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:30:08</time>
Like that video probably took me.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:30:10</time>
Six to seven hours, you know, just sitting on my couch on a Sunday, you

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:30:14</time>
know, to, to edit, but finding the music is probably one of my favorite parts of

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:30:19</time>
the, of the process, because once you find the right one, you're like, oh my

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:30:22</time>
gosh, yeah, it makes a huge difference.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:30:25</time>
Like this is going to be my main one and I'm going to find as many Similar songs

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:30:28</time>
as I can, you know, unless you're kind of going from dark to light or whatever,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:30:32</time>
after a while, you probably see me throwing in like the girl from

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:30:34</time>
Iponema, you know, behind Pearl Harbor.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:30:37</time>
And it doesn't really make any sense.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:30:39</time>
Like I said, I'm not, I'm not the producer.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:30:43</time>
That's how I feel.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:30:47</time>
Um, so Scott, let me ask you a question.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:30:48</time>
Um, you, you've admitted that you weren't like a real history buff person.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:30:55</time>
So like, I have to know what, at what point were you sitting there

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:31:01</time>
at, were you like editing or were you just like, okay, Now I'm getting it.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:31:05</time>
Was there like a certain story that just kind of slowly brought you

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:31:09</time>
into where you started expanding your, your knowledge base?

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:31:12</time>
Or did you just kind of just get used to it?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:31:17</time>
So, so honestly, for, for me, it's been, it's been kind of story by story.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:31:22</time>
I won't lie.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:31:22</time>
Like certain, certain stories for me are just less interesting, right?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:31:26</time>
Um, because it's, it's, it's niche or something like that.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:31:29</time>
And some are just over the top.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:31:31</time>
Oh my gosh, this is such an amazing story because here's what this historic.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:31:35</time>
Figure did, um, but for me, when we started the channel, I

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:31:40</time>
knew that it would take me time.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:31:42</time>
I knew right up front because I had done some family stuff.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:31:44</time>
I had messed with YouTube a little bit since, like, 2018, and we started this

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:31:47</time>
in 2021, um, and so I knew right away that there would be kind of conflict

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:31:53</time>
between the two of us, and there still is.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:31:55</time>
Sometimes I'll try to cut stuff out.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:31:57</time>
And she'll see like, Hey, I talked about this, I talked about this,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:00</time>
this, and this story left it all out.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:03</time>
I was like, but it was boring.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:04</time>
Um, and so I, so we, I mean, we had that argument about, you know,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:08</time>
something, you know, just the other day and she usually wins those.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:12</time>
Um, but, uh, But through that, again, what she's also gotten better at

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:18</time>
with the storytelling aspect of it is crafting those facts to, to fit

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:23</time>
a good, like a, a story narrative.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:26</time>
Because when you're telling that, that historical event, or you're

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:31</time>
talking about that person, if you kind of have a mental map, it makes

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:35</time>
telling that story so much easier.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:37</time>
You, I kind of call it like you're almost reeling the fish.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:40</time>
You're constantly kind of casting a little bit, you're giving

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:42</time>
them a taste of what's coming.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:44</time>
But then you're coming back.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:45</time>
And you're walking them towards what they know is, is, is kind of coming.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:49</time>
And so that storytelling aspect of we've both of us together have really grown.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:54</time>
And I joke sometimes that my goal is to make a history video that I

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:32:58</time>
would watch as a non history nerd.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:01</time>
If I could watch all the way through and find it interesting,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:03</time>
then that's, that's my bar, right?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:04</time>
So if I can watch it, then the history nerds should really love it.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:08</time>
Um, and so that's, that's kind of the goal there.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:11</time>
So it took me some time because we kind of had to, even just, even though

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:14</time>
we'd been married, married for a while.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:16</time>
It took us a while to kind of find each other's cadence.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:19</time>
And when she's saying this, does she, what does she mean?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:22</time>
And sometimes it takes her even today, it'll take her doing a couple of takes.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:28</time>
She'll spit the facts out early on in the day in the filming, then she'll, she'll

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:32</time>
put them out again in a later clip and she'll have said it a couple of times.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:35</time>
So she'll, she'll be better later because it's smoother.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:37</time>
So it's all some of the, Um, editing stuff.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:41</time>
And then we do a follow up, you know, our, our podcast talk with history

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:44</time>
is kind of a follow up to that.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:46</time>
So we go deeper in depth and because I've already made the video, I only, I,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:50</time>
you only usually make the podcast until I made the video first, because then I

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:53</time>
know enough of the story and I can speak.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:56</time>
You know, intelligently to it.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:33:58</time>
Um, but it took some time and to be perfectly honest, like I'm still

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:02</time>
not really, I don't go seeking out history videos on YouTube.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:05</time>
Um, I, I, I, I honestly don't.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:08</time>
Some, sometimes I do just to be like, Hey, this, a friend of ours, who's another

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:13</time>
history creator, their video exploded.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:15</time>
Okay.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:15</time>
I'm going to watch and go see what he did to tell the story.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:19</time>
I'm more interested in.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:20</time>
How do they tell the story and maybe I'll kind of look at their subject

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:25</time>
matter or something like that research purposes, research, but I'm just, you

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:30</time>
know, I like watching the tech stuff or I like watching the producer side of

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:33</time>
things or the, some of the travel stuff.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:35</time>
Like that's, that's what I'm interested in.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:37</time>
Um,

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:34:38</time>
we're so lucky because of that.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:39</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:39</time>
We, we, cause I know

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:34:40</time>
nothing about that.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:34:42</time>
I wouldn't even know how to start editing anything.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:34:45</time>
I would be so lost.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:34:46</time>
So I, we are so lucky.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:34:48</time>
I'm really, it, I, it feels like a great combination.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:51</time>
But yeah, I mean, and really Doug, it's, we both kind of, at

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:34:56</time>
a certain point, we both kind of realized like story is King.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:35:01</time>
Story is King.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:35:02</time>
Story is King.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:35:02</time>
Story is King.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:35:03</time>
If you have an interesting story and interesting historical event,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:35:07</time>
But you don't tell the story well, or it's not presented well.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:35:10</time>
And we've done that before.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:35:11</time>
I look at some of our old videos and we're like, Oh my gosh, like,

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:35:14</time>
Yeah, that's boring.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:35:15</time>
I hope

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:35:15</time>
nobody goes back and finds it.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:35:18</time>
But, uh, so story is king, even with those, those historical events.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:35:22</time>
I think

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:35:22</time>
when you use, when you use that storytelling method, Not only one, is it

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:35:26</time>
gonna, it is gonna make it a little bit more interesting for people who can't

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:35:30</time>
just sit there and, and read textbooks.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:35:32</time>
And like, I I, I will go and read a hundred year old news

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:35:36</time>
articles to like Mm-Hmm.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:35:37</time>
To figure out the pulse of the culture at the time.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:35:40</time>
Sure.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:35:40</time>
That, that's just me.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:35:42</time>
But I can still go back and watch your video and be thrilled.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:35:45</time>
Right.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:35:46</time>
And, and, and just find it fascinating and very captivating.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:35:49</time>
Um, but one, it'll, it'll help people kind of remember, but

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:35:53</time>
it'll help them understand more.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:35:55</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:35:55</time>
My opinion, because they're like, okay, I kind of, I kind of see, I see how

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:35:59</time>
that person came to that decision, you know, um, cause yeah, there's, there's

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:04</time>
so much context and like we had stated before history is not black and white.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:08</time>
Um, I heard, uh, I heard a comment the other day I was watching, I was

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:13</time>
watching something on the, the cold war.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:15</time>
And so the cold war starts directly after world war two.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:17</time>
And, uh, they made the comment that said Hitler was the worst, uh, was

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:23</time>
the worst of mankind's creations.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:25</time>
But they were very specific when they said mankind's creation was like,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:29</time>
well, something had to create that man.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:36:30</time>
So what

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:31</time>
did, you know, and, uh, it makes you want to go back and be like, okay,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:36</time>
well, what are the conditions that created this one, this one event.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:42</time>
And within the world, like, you know, why was Constantinople

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:45</time>
constantly being conquered?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:47</time>
And you know, what's so important about it, you know, you can

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:50</time>
go back and do that stuff.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:52</time>
Uh, but let's talk about favorite, favorite topics.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:56</time>
I hear, I hear John Wayne.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:36:58</time>
Oh, yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:01</time>
I'm a huge, okay, dudes.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:03</time>
I mean, come on guys.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:04</time>
Like I tell you, I was a pilot in the Navy, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:07</time>
I'm so used to hanging around dudes.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:09</time>
It's like, not even funny.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:11</time>
My call sign was Yoko because I broke up the band, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:15</time>
First female in the squadron.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:16</time>
And my, I, my father was a high school football coach.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:20</time>
My father was a cop, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:21</time>
I have a brother who played football.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:23</time>
Like I'm raised on John Wayne.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:25</time>
I love John Wayne.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:27</time>
That's like, I, I, I, I'll go to my grave.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:30</time>
The searchers is the best Western of all time.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:34</time>
, like, I, I cannot wait to talk about that and talk about the anti-hero.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:39</time>
Yeah, I think it's John Wayne's best performance.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:40</time>
We have a couple more.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:37:41</time>
John Wayne Media is coming and that's awesome.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:43</time>
And that is kind of what started the channel because I was on my treadmill.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:48</time>
And it was COVID.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:49</time>
And I was looking up John Wayne Museum.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:53</time>
And then I was like, has anyone been to Marina O'Hara's grave?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:37:55</time>
Because most people do not know that she's buried in Arlington National Cemetery.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:38:00</time>
Marina O'Hara is one of John Wayne's great co stars, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:38:04</time>
She was in the Quiet Man.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:38:05</time>
She's in, uh, McClintock.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:38:08</time>
You know, it's really the red head, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:38:10</time>
The fiery red head.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:38:11</time>
And she was married to a brigadier general in the air force.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:38:14</time>
And he died in the seventies a long time before her.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:38:18</time>
And she outlived him.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:38:19</time>
But so most people kind of forget, but she's buried in Arlington and no

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:38:23</time>
one had visited her grave on youtube.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:38:26</time>
No.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:38:26</time>
Well, a lot of people don't understand that.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:38:29</time>
That the spouses of the service members that are barely acknowledged

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:38:34</time>
and can be buried with them.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:38:35</time>
Yes.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:38:35</time>
Yes.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:38:36</time>
Unfortunately, my, my grandmother recently passed away, but my, my

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:38:38</time>
grandfather is buried in Arden.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:38:40</time>
So she had the opportunity, however, she denied it because she said that that's,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:38:44</time>
that's where our heroes go to go to lay.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:38:47</time>
And so she wanted to keep that there for him, but I had no

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:38:50</time>
idea that she was buried there.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:38:52</time>
That's crazy.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:38:52</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:38:53</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:38:53</time>
So I'm.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:38:54</time>
That's one of our first videos from Arlington.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:38:56</time>
That was

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:38:56</time>
kind of our first positive signal that we were doing something right.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:38:59</time>
As I

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:38:59</time>
would visit Marie Ann Mino Hera, and that took off because

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:02</time>
a lot of people didn't know that.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:03</time>
A lot of people like her.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:04</time>
She's connected to John Wayne.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:06</time>
And so to go to her grave and to talk about her, I kind of found this really

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:12</time>
great I don't know if it's a niche, but I did other people in Arlington that way.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:17</time>
I did the Gunny, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:19</time>
I could go to their grave and sit with them.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:21</time>
Uh, Charles Durning, people who were a part of the entertainment industry, but

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:26</time>
are now in Arlington National Cemetery.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:28</time>
So it was so great to tell their story with them and a great way to honor them.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:34</time>
And I, it, for me, it was just a really great experience.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:37</time>
And so then as a.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:39</time>
As a veteran and to be there and talk about what Arlington means to me.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:42</time>
And then I could visit some people.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:44</time>
We knew I could talk about people who influenced my

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:47</time>
military career, who were there.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:49</time>
So it was really, that was one of our first videos and probably the

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:39:53</time>
first video to really take off.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:39:55</time>
Yeah, that was, that was person really take off.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:39:57</time>
And now we've been back, you know, back there a bunch of times.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:40:00</time>
And,

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:40:00</time>
but John Wayne is huge.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:40:01</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:40:01</time>
John, John Wayne's a good one.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:40:02</time>
We

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:40:03</time>
compare the two, two grit movies.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:40:05</time>
That is a huge video.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:40:06</time>
Yeah,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:40:07</time>
that's awesome.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:40:08</time>
Let's, let's, let's talk, let's talk about, you know, service for a second.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:40:12</time>
Um, I know for myself, all right, as a Navy guy, especially as a

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:40:19</time>
submariner, fourth generation, right.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:40:21</time>
History is a big deal for our culture and it has a tendency to be a big deal

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:40:25</time>
for just the military members in general.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:40:28</time>
Um, do you, do you feel like, like your time in the service or your current time

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:40:34</time>
in the service and what you're learning there and knowing that you, you're part

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:40:38</time>
of a long history of something kind of inform you or help you along or inspire

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:40:44</time>
you more to, to do what you're doing or

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:40:48</time>
I'd say, you know, Um, for me guys, it's not a lot

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:40:52</time>
of women who do this, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:40:54</time>
There's not a lot of women pilots period.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:40:56</time>
Right.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:40:56</time>
And so I feel, and maybe it's the confidence that comes out, but I feel

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:41:00</time>
very confident and what I do, I think the education helped me be more confident in

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:41:05</time>
what I say and then being out there to represent, I really take that seriously.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:41:10</time>
Uh, there was another pilot named Jennifer was a helicopter pilot who went down in

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:41:15</time>
Iraq and she was, she was killed there.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:41:18</time>
So I think about.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:41:19</time>
A bunch of people that didn't make it home and I take the risk

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:41:24</time>
and I take the chance for them because they can't and I try to go.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:41:29</time>
I'm going to live my life as much as I can because they can't.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:41:33</time>
And sometimes if I would have been more timid and I'm not going to try that.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:41:36</time>
I'm like, no, I'm going for it because I can't.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:41:40</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:41:40</time>
And I think it's You know, in some sense, it's probably similar to why, you know,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:41:45</time>
Doug, you probably helped start stand up the gardens of the purple heart.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:41:49</time>
And it's like, you know, if there's something I want to do, I'm going,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:41:54</time>
I'm going to give myself the mission and I'm going to attack, right.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:41:58</time>
I'm going to, I'm going to move towards that mission, whatever that mission is.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:01</time>
And for us, when we finally, we joke that we've, yeah, after 15 years, we

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:05</time>
finally found something that we enjoy doing together and that's the YouTube

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:07</time>
channel, um, but for, for us, it was.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:11</time>
It kind of put everything together.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:13</time>
And then it also, again, that confidence of like, we have no

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:16</time>
idea what we're doing, but we're just going to go and do it anyways.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:19</time>
And we're going to figure it out along the way because that's what we do.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:22</time>
And that comes from, and I think I'm preaching to the choir here, you know,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:26</time>
that comes from being in the military when, when your commanding officer or

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:29</time>
your boss or whoever it is says, Hey, you kind of just need to figure this one out.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:34</time>
And you're like, okay.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:36</time>
Let's go.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:37</time>
And, uh, and so I think that's what gave us the confidence to start the

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:40</time>
channel, you know, with history, with, with her background and me

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:44</time>
wanting to kind of do the production side and enjoying that piece of it.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:49</time>
And then, you know, again, me just kind of doing all the research

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:52</time>
on, like, how do we need to do this and how does it all set up?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:55</time>
And then, okay, now we're going to drag the kids along with us and

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:42:58</time>
everything that kind of comes with that.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:43:00</time>
And then, you know, You know, like anything else, I think anytime you talk

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:43:03</time>
to fellow vets, a lot of us have that perspective that a lot of folks who hadn't

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:43:08</time>
had the opportunity to serve, even though we've met plenty of people who said, Oh,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:43:11</time>
I wish I could have, or this, that, and the other, you just get a perspective that

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:43:15</time>
not a lot of people get, whether it's from deployments or from what you're doing.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:43:18</time>
You've seen, you know, just, you know, in your few years or a full career or

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:43:22</time>
whatever that is, um, and so when you have that perspective, when you're

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:43:27</time>
talking about stories in historical context, and that just helps, it kind

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:43:33</time>
of helps you as, you know, the artist crafting that story, paint the picture

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:43:38</time>
a little clearer, hopefully, um, and I think a lot of that stems from that.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:43:42</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:43:42</time>
And

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:43:43</time>
you

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:43:43</time>
guys, you guys are really, I mean, you pay a wonderful respect to a

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:43:47</time>
lot of aspects of history, but as well as, as some military stuff, you guys

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:43:51</time>
recently did a, a medal of honor video.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:43:55</time>
Yes.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:43:56</time>
So I was asked by a fellow, uh, history creator on Instagram, To

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:01</time>
visit that grave because they were doing a story and because I am, I'm

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:06</time>
very much on location historian.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:08</time>
That's kind of what sets me apart, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:09</time>
As I go to the location and tell you about it.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:12</time>
And I was going to Arlington anyway, and I told him absolutely.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:17</time>
So I looked him up and I His story and I sat there with

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:20</time>
the Medal of Honor recipient.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:21</time>
I told his story and then it coincided with their, they did a

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:24</time>
long form video of their story.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:27</time>
So that was

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:44:28</time>
Instagram.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:44:28</time>
And then we had done another Medal of Honor when I think it was

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:44:30</time>
the, um, who is the local Carney?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:44:33</time>
Oh yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:44:33</time>
Sergeant Carney.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:34</time>
Sergeant Carney is from the civil war.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:36</time>
You remember in the movie glory.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:38</time>
He's kind of played by Denzel Washington and, uh,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:44:41</time>
carries the flag, carries

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:42</time>
the flag.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:42</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:42</time>
So he's the first African American to be awarded the medal of honor.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:47</time>
He didn't receive it first because someone else got the actual physical

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:51</time>
medal before he did, but his action preceded that other person action.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:56</time>
So he was the first one to receive it.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:44:58</time>
So yeah,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:44:58</time>
he's buried here in the Norfolk area.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:45:00</time>
So we visited his grave and there's a marker, you know, we found his

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:45:03</time>
marker and, you know, kind of, kind of tried to tell that story.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:45:06</time>
So,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:45:07</time>
yeah, that's, that is.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:45:09</time>
I love that.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:45:09</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:45:10</time>
Thank you for doing that.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:45:11</time>
I think that's pretty awesome.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:45:12</time>
Uh, I mean, cause there's stories that shouldn't, shouldn't kind

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:45:15</time>
of fade to history, right?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:45:17</time>
Yes.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:45:17</time>
They should continue to be told.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:45:20</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:45:21</time>
It's, yeah, it's some crazy stuff you guys are doing.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:45:24</time>
Doug.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:45:24</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:45:25</time>
You got another question to add in there?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:45:26</time>
I, like I said, I got a, I got my homework.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:45:29</time>
No.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:45:29</time>
Okay.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:45:30</time>
I mean, not history related, but I mean, I always have to know

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:45:33</time>
just because I, I just love it.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:45:35</time>
But what's your guys favorite pizza?

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:45:37</time>
We'll go completely off topic here.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:45:40</time>
Pizza for me, my, my favorite piece is probably pretty controversial.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:45:43</time>
I know.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:45:44</time>
At least people have, people tend to have strong feelings.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:45:46</time>
We get, we get people mad at us.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:45:49</time>
So

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:45:49</time>
I'm a big pepperoni and pineapple guy.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:45:51</time>
I like pineapple on pizza.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:45:53</time>
Some people I've, I've literally had friends who didn't, who didn't like it.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:45:57</time>
Yeah, it's

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:45:58</time>
so good because it's the sweet with the spicy.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:46:00</time>
I've, I've had like

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:46:01</time>
close friends that didn't know that I like that.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:46:04</time>
They'll, they'll, that topic comes up and they'll be like, if you

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:46:07</time>
like, if you like pineapple on your pizza, don't ever talk to me again.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:46:10</time>
We cannot be friends, et cetera, et cetera.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:46:12</time>
I'm jokingly.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:46:13</time>
But, uh, so, so for me, that's, that's honestly my favorite.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:46:16</time>
And

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:46:16</time>
I can eat that too.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:46:17</time>
Actually, when we used to do a lot of like, Climbing and

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:46:20</time>
stuff and you're so exhausted.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:46:22</time>
That was a really good treat, but I, I'll try to send your

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:46:24</time>
rock climbers.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:46:26</time>
This

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:46:26</time>
guy did El Cap.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:46:27</time>
He's done the nose of El Cap twice.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:46:30</time>
He did the face of half dome.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:46:31</time>
This guy is a big wall rock climber.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:46:34</time>
That's no joke out there pulling on some rock.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:46:37</time>
He was a Naval Academy gymnast.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:46:39</time>
So.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:46:41</time>
He's the real deal.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:46:43</time>
Wow.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:46:43</time>
I know.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:46:44</time>
That's what I said.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:46:44</time>
I don't usually bring, I don't usually bring that up with random strangers

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:46:50</time>
that I just met on the internet.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:46:52</time>
But it's okay.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:46:52</time>
I'll let, I'll let her bring it up.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:46:54</time>
It's impressive though.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:46:54</time>
It's a, it's a definitely, definitely a fun, fun sport.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:46:59</time>
To get into, we actually, we, we got a family membership to a

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:47:03</time>
central rock gym, uh, here and the whole family fell in love with it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:47:08</time>
I'd done it multiple times before and then gone out to

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:47:12</time>
actually climb a couple of times.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:47:14</time>
But, uh, I was like, well, let's just go do it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:47:16</time>
And sure enough, they all fell in love with it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:47:18</time>
Especially when they're a bunch of little kids that climb on everything anyways.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:47:22</time>
So it's, yeah, it's, it's perfect for them.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:47:24</time>
I actually, I tried to start a climbing gym, uh, when I,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:47:26</time>
I actually got out of the Navy, uh, for about a year or two.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:47:30</time>
Um, that's what I, that's what I tried to do.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:47:31</time>
But 2010 after the great recession was not a great time to start a business.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:47:36</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:47:36</time>
I tried to start a book, start a comic book store.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:47:38</time>
So try,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:47:39</time>
try selling picture books to big kids.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:47:40</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:47:44</time>
But, um, so you, you mentioned.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:47:48</time>
Well, you mentioned multiple times.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:47:50</time>
You're the traveling historian, the on the on scene historian, but I've heard the

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:47:55</time>
phrase, uh, evergreen used a few times.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:47:58</time>
Can you, can you explain that?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:00</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:00</time>
So, so that's a, that's a concept, um, that I actually got from, there's a,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:05</time>
there's a podcast out there, dusty Porter.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:07</time>
He has the YouTube creators podcast, right?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:10</time>
Um, and he basically just kind of talks to other creators.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:12</time>
Creators and talks about what they learned building a YouTube channel.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:15</time>
So I listened to that for a while.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:16</time>
Like anything else, I'm researching the hell out of, you know, how do I

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:19</time>
make a successful YouTube channel?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:21</time>
And he talked about evergreen content and evergreen content is something

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:24</time>
that you could listen to it today.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:27</time>
You could listen to it three years ago.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:29</time>
You could listen to it in 10 years and it's, it's still the same story.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:33</time>
It's still relevant.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:34</time>
You know, it, it lasts no matter what, if we're sitting here talking

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:37</time>
about the most recent Text stuff.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:40</time>
Well, in a couple of years, that's going to be out of date, but if we're talking

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:43</time>
about history and that's why I knew when she brought this up, she said, Hey, I want

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:47</time>
to start a history channel in my head.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:49</time>
I was like, ding, I know for a fact that that will work.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:48:53</time>
Um,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:54</time>
and so that's that evergreen content.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:48:56</time>
Like if you tell it right, um, and you don't kind of try to interject

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:49:01</time>
too much modern day, uh, kind of context and comparisons, you

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:49:05</time>
can keep that story evergreen.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:49:07</time>
So that again, if you tell it properly, In five years, someone could watch

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:49:12</time>
the video we just published the other day on Meriwether Lewis, and

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:49:16</time>
it's going to be the same story.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:49:17</time>
It's going to be the same engaging story.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:49:19</time>
He's been

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:49:19</time>
dead since 1809.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:49:21</time>
So if you're telling the same story, think of it as a great rerun, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:49:25</time>
It holds its syndication, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:49:28</time>
So you don't have to, the content is good.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:49:30</time>
Someone could watch that same video.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:49:32</time>
10 years from now.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:49:33</time>
And the, all the information is still the same.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:49:35</time>
I can watch.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:49:35</time>
I love Lucy till the day I die.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:49:37</time>
Oh my gosh.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:49:38</time>
Yep.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:49:38</time>
Right.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:49:39</time>
Cause it's still relevant.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:49:40</time>
You're

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:49:41</time>
right.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:49:41</time>
We, we had a, a video that we put up, um, that we were toying

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:49:46</time>
around with the idea of doing medal of honor recipients as well.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:49:49</time>
And we did a master sergeant, uh, was it Roy?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:49:53</time>
Was it Roy Benavides?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:49:55</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:49:56</time>
Um, and, and his story and like that did just kind of did quite well for

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:01</time>
itself, you know, for a small channel, but I was like, all right, well, that

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:04</time>
shows that people are interested.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:06</time>
People care.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:07</time>
Um, there wasn't anything special.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:09</time>
It was literally just his speech, you know, I think it was, uh, I think

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:12</time>
Reagan might've been speaking at the time or, or someone, but, uh, yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:16</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:17</time>
It's true.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:17</time>
They are.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:18</time>
They are evergreen things.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:19</time>
I think I've gone back and I've listened to tides of history's

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:21</time>
podcast, entire catalog twice by now, but it's the same thing.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:25</time>
It's that narrative history telling that I love so much and you guys

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:29</time>
are a great addition to that.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:31</time>
Um, so now, now we have some questions about history.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:37</time>
Yes.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:38</time>
Um, we are the guardians of the purple heart.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:41</time>
That's so cool.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:42</time>
Anything that's fun.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:44</time>
You can tell us about the Purple Heart Award.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:50:47</time>
Well,

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:50:47</time>
George Washington is on the Purple Heart and George Washington

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:50:52</time>
originated the, the medal, but it wasn't, wasn't what it is today when

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:50:58</time>
he first started it, I think the first Purple Heart that actually was a Purple

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:04</time>
Heart came out during the civil war.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:07</time>
for being injured and during combat or injured during battle.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:11</time>
I think for George Washington, his Purple Heart, he was giving it to

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:13</time>
people who had just, who had served.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:16</time>
And so it kind of took a transition between the Revolutionary War to

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:21</time>
the Civil War to what it is today.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:23</time>
Uh, if you are a Purple Heart recipient, your name is in a book in Mount Vernon.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:28</time>
You can go ask to see it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:51:30</time>
I didn't know that.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:31</time>
Yes.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:32</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:32</time>
And so if you are a Purple Heart recipient, you go to Mount Vernon.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:51:35</time>
Really bad for not knowing that.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:39</time>
You can ask to see your name in the book.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:40</time>
It's on the second floor of Mount Vernon.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:42</time>
So you will be allowed your, your family, whoever you're allowed to

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:46</time>
go up there and look and see your name in the book, the Purple Heart.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:50</time>
We might

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:51:50</time>
have to take a trip.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:51:52</time>
Yeah, those are the things I know about it.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:51:54</time>
We might, we might have to, I mean, I think the whole book idea is, is really,

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:52:00</time>
I mean, it's awesome because you're like, your name is, is kind of like edged in

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:52:02</time>
history forever and having that it's, I would say it's kind of cool, but then

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:52:08</time>
again, on the, I would have to say on like the psychological side of things,

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:52:12</time>
I look at it and go, I wouldn't want to see my name in a book and reminding me.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:52:18</time>
Of the day that I possibly almost died, right?

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:52:22</time>
It's like, I, I have, you know, I've been through multiple surgeries, um,

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:52:26</time>
because of my injuries overseas and.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:52:29</time>
Everyone tells me wear them as a badge of honor that, you know, you made it through.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:52:34</time>
And yeah, I do.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:52:35</time>
But at the same time, it's, it's that constant reminder too.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:52:39</time>
So I'd have to say on the psychological side of things, I could see how it would

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:52:43</time>
be a little bit troublesome, but I mean, either way, I still think that's awesome.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:52:49</time>
We need to take a

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:52:49</time>
trip.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:52:50</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:52:50</time>
Well, your name is in a book in Mount Vernon and I think it's

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:52:55</time>
reminiscent of George Washington.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:52:57</time>
So I think that is the kind of what.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:52:59</time>
They're trying because his face is on the heart and your name is in his house.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:53:06</time>
So my, my question, um, is just fun.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:53:12</time>
Uh, can you tell me anything about, uh, Doc Holliday?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:53:17</time>
Oh man.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:53:18</time>
So pe people keep recommending to us, so we're gonna have to compare.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:53:22</time>
That's, I love tombstones.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:53:23</time>
We're gonna have to compare the two movies.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:53:24</time>
You were just watching it the other night.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:53:25</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:53:26</time>
We're gonna have to compare

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:53:27</time>
the two movies because people, because people love

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:53:29</time>
the True Grit comparison.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:53:31</time>
Mm-Hmm.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:53:31</time>
. We're gonna have to Doya, Earp and Tombstone.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:53:34</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:53:34</time>
We've been to Deadwood.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:53:36</time>
It was super cool.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:53:37</time>
Recommend going, uh, I think Val Coer played him better.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:53:41</time>
Uh, do what did we just learn about Big Nose Kate the other day?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:53:46</time>
That was neat.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:53:47</time>
That something was named after her and most people don't know

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:53:51</time>
it was named after so big nose.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:53:52</time>
Kate is doc holidays.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:53:54</time>
I like better where his girlfriend, uh, he is a doctor.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:53:57</time>
He's a doctor of dentistry.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:54:00</time>
That's what he's a doctor of.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:54:02</time>
And I'll tell you, I'll tell you

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:03</time>
what, just from like a traveling around the United States perspective, I

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:06</time>
was so surprised at South Dakota, that part of South Dakota where, where dead

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:10</time>
wood is right, right near Mount Rushmore.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:13</time>
It's gorgeous out there.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:15</time>
It's like hilly and like.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:17</time>
Not almost mountainous, depending on what you're kind of comparing,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:20</time>
you know, as, as mountains, but just that, that part of the country, I

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:24</time>
can 100 percent understand why people were just flocking out there because

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:54:28</time>
it is

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:28</time>
beautiful country.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:29</time>
We went out right when she said, when we went out there,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:32</time>
we just whole Western road trip.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:34</time>
And so it took the kids and I mean, we drove 6, 000 plus miles over

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:37</time>
the course of a couple of weeks.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:38</time>
Yeah, we were, we were hitting it hard.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:41</time>
Um, but, uh, We were out there.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:43</time>
We stayed in South Dakota for a couple of days for a family reunion.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:46</time>
Cause I've got family in Montana and Colorado and California.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:54:50</time>
And so we all kind of met, you know, semi in the middle.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:54:53</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:54:54</time>
Like I said, doc holiday had tuberculosis.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:54:56</time>
I know that.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:54:58</time>
And when we were in Deadwood, do you know what, um, The Dead Man's Hand is with

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:55:04</time>
Wild Bill Hickok was holding when he died.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:55:07</time>
Oh,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:55:08</time>
yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:55:08</time>
Ace, eight.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:55:09</time>
I don't remember the hand, but I know.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:55:10</time>
There you

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:55:10</time>
go.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:55:10</time>
Aces over eights.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:55:11</time>
Aces over

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:55:12</time>
eights.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:55:12</time>
Aces over eights.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:55:13</time>
And one thing.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:55:14</time>
Yeah, that's the Dead Man's Hand.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:55:15</time>
Um, where was the OK Corral shootout?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:55:18</time>
Was that the, uh.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:55:18</time>
Arizona.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:55:19</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:55:20</time>
I'm still hung up on the fact that you gave me that doc was a dentist.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:55:24</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:55:25</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:55:25</time>
Which was interesting 'cause I believe during that time period, dentists were

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:55:29</time>
also often barbers or it was Barbers

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:55:34</time>
were often dentists.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:55:34</time>
No, barbers were also surgeons.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:55:36</time>
I think it was because that's where something like, so if you look outside

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:55:39</time>
the barbers, see maybe I'm gonna teach you a little bit of history, so, oh,

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:55:42</time>
the spinning my lottery

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:55:43</time>
ticket, y'all.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:55:44</time>
I'm ready.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:55:45</time>
Is it that spinning thing?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:55:46</time>
Mm-Hmm.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:55:47</time>
with the red and the white.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:55:48</time>
Yep.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:55:48</time>
It's because they used to put, um, the bloody rags on the, the thing, the

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:55:53</time>
white, the white pole, and it would spin around and then it would, they

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:55:58</time>
would use it to dry them out that way.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:56:00</time>
Yes.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:56:01</time>
Oh, interesting.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:56:02</time>
But, but surgeons could pull teeth.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:56:04</time>
You can kind of, you can kind of put them both together, the teeth pulling.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:56:09</time>
And so, I can see that

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:56:12</time>
either way.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:56:13</time>
Um, I just, I just love tombstone and I love that character.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:56:16</time>
So

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:17</time>
he's so good.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:17</time>
It's all cameras.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:18</time>
So good.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:18</time>
So where was, was the tombstone in the city?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:20</time>
Was that Arizona?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:56:22</time>
It's in Arizona.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:56:22</time>
So it's Arizona.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:23</time>
So wasn't it, uh, Lisa that we were talking to?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:26</time>
So, um, our friend Lisa, she's got a, um, Pretty big Instagram channel.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:31</time>
Historical USA.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:33</time>
So her family's from the Arizona area and her, was it her great grandmother?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:38</time>
Yeah, it was there.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:39</time>
Was actually at the shootout at the O.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:41</time>
K.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:41</time>
Corral.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:56:42</time>
She was there.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:43</time>
Wow.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:44</time>
Really?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:45</time>
Yeah, yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:45</time>
So she was from Arizona, um, lived a hard life, but that was something

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:50</time>
that was passed down in her family.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:51</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:56:51</time>
She was there at the, at the actual shootout.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:56:53</time>
Another cool thing about history, genealogy, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:56:56</time>
People want to know who they're connected to in history.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:56:58</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:56:58</time>
I have that for music history in my family, oddly enough.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:03</time>
Yes.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:03</time>
Speaking of wits, my fiance is, um, she has direct ties with Abraham Lincoln

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:10</time>
and like a part of, um, I forget who in her family, like they were there

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:16</time>
in the theater when he was shot.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:18</time>
And she has like all this memorabilia of like letters and stuff like that, like

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:22</time>
hanging up downstairs in our living room.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:25</time>
But.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:25</time>
I mean, that part is kind of, that's kind of interesting.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:28</time>
That's cool.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:29</time>
Yeah, I have.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:30</time>
I am.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:31</time>
Yes.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>00:57:31</time>
Han Solo did shoot first.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:32</time>
Yes, right.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:34</time>
It's fact.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:35</time>
A fact.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:36</time>
I'm not, I'm not a Star Trek fan.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>00:57:37</time>
Fact.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:57:38</time>
Princess Leia is the hero of that movie.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>00:57:41</time>
Don't get her

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:57:41</time>
startled.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:57:43</time>
All right.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:57:44</time>
So for my, for my wife and I, uh, our, our individual families that, uh, the

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:57:49</time>
sharps and then, uh, One of the sides of her family, the Maxwell's very deep

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:57:54</time>
Scottish roots, hers more so than mine.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:57:58</time>
All right.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:57:58</time>
So like the Maxwell clan has a castle in Scotland.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:02</time>
It's this beautiful, awesome triangle castle with a moat around it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:06</time>
Um, The leader of the Maxwell clan was one of like, I think the 22 clan and, um,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:11</time>
uh, leaders that signed the equivalent of Scotland's declaration of independence

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:16</time>
as a letter to the Pope at the time.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:18</time>
Um, which it's cool to show my children, be like, this, this is your heritage.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:22</time>
You know, your, your family name is attached to a country existing.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:26</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:27</time>
Where mine is the only reason why I can, I know my ancestry is because Scotland

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:32</time>
prisons have really good prison records.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:35</time>
So the joke is, is that I married up, um, that her family owned the castle and

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:41</time>
my family was probably in the jail cell.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:44</time>
We were always caught stealing horses or food.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:49</time>
It's, yeah, it's cool.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:50</time>
Like the, the genealogical.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:52</time>
Mm-Hmm.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:52</time>
, uh, history as well.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:53</time>
My, my grand, my great-grandparents, uh, met at the Hoover Dam

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:58</time>
while it was being built.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:58:59</time>
Oh, shit.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:00</time>
Uh, my great grandfather was a foreman, uh, there after he got out of the service.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:04</time>
That's cool.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:04</time>
And, uh.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:05</time>
He would have, uh, you know, back then when you have giant projects

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:10</time>
like that, there's just small towns that pop up around the projects.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:12</time>
Right.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:13</time>
Uh, so they would have big chow halls and stuff and people would come in,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:17</time>
move in from all over the United States to go to go to work there.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:20</time>
And my great grandmother was one of the cooks in this, in this chow hall.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:25</time>
So my grandfather every day would go to make sure that his guys were getting fed.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:29</time>
Well, um, Goes down there, sees that they're all happy and laughing.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:33</time>
They're enjoying great food, goes to talk to the cook to, to, to thank

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:37</time>
her and is just floored by her.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:41</time>
And so every day he would come back to check, check, check on his guys

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:45</time>
and make sure they were being fed.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:47</time>
Eventually the, the two fell in love and they got married.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:50</time>
They all kind of built around the Hoover dam and a giant

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:55</time>
thing for the United States.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:56</time>
Right.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>00:59:56</time>
So that genealogical history, my, my grandfather was part of the USS Torsk,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:03</time>
which was the submarine that was, uh, part of the Naval blockade, uh,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:08</time>
during the Cuban missile crisis, the Russian submarine that actually had a

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:12</time>
nuclear torpedo pointed right at us.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:15</time>
Wow.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:16</time>
So it, yeah, to, to, to be, to know, like your family is part of history

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:20</time>
and stuff that you kind of realize that history isn't just facts.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:23</time>
It's, it's who we are,

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:00:25</time>
you

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:26</time>
know, um, you have a really cool.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:29</time>
Piece of merchandise.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:30</time>
I'm going to share it here.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:33</time>
I love it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:33</time>
It says history or die.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:00:37</time>
I'm wearing it.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:00:37</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:38</time>
We just came up with that one.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:39</time>
I love it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:40</time>
I absolutely love it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:43</time>
And there's, and the bumper sticker that's next to it that

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:45</time>
says I break for historic markers.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:49</time>
A couple of years ago I had bought my wife, um, uh, like a big GPS for her car.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:54</time>
Cause I didn't have one.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:56</time>
And so I set it all up for, and when I started.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:00:59</time>
I realized that there's history channel logo logos all over the map.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:01:02</time>
And apparently the version that I got was contract with history channel

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:01:06</time>
shows all the historical spots that are around you, wherever you are.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:01:09</time>
I still, I don't need a GPS.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:01:13</time>
I still have this thing.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:01:13</time>
Well, I love that, that bumper sticker, because I was really doing that.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:01:21</time>
Like we were driving and I would be like, slow down the horse, dark

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:01:23</time>
marker, I want to read it real fast.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:01:24</time>
And I told Scott that we should make a bumper sticker to warn people.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:01:28</time>
Because we're slowing down to read these.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:01:30</time>
And so he's like, I'll make it.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:01:31</time>
So that was kind of funny.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:01:33</time>
The history or die, uh, we were going out somewhere and he had a

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:01:38</time>
shirt on that said, join or die.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:01:39</time>
And I was like, wouldn't it be great if we could wear this with the channel

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:01:42</time>
and it said history, and he's like, I'm going to make it right now.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:01:45</time>
Hey, you know, I, I had, uh, I had the saying like for my entire

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:01:49</time>
life, which was stay heavy, stay metal.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:01:51</time>
I grew up in a heavy metal family and, uh, we, we turned it into our Our

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:01:56</time>
kind of our sign off the stay proud.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:01:59</time>
Stay grateful.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:02:00</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:01</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:01</time>
And uh, the, the, the fun thing with the history of die, we're

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:04</time>
actually kind of trying to do some kind of history content, community

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:08</time>
content, uh, support behind that.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:10</time>
So if you, um, We're starting a website, actually history or die dot org.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:15</time>
It's kind of in a soft, soft launch kind of phase right now.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:18</time>
But what we're trying to do is bring on, you know, basically

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:20</time>
make it like a place for people to go find good history creators.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:26</time>
And then from there, kind of go off to their channel.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:29</time>
So we just kind of started reaching out to the people we knew.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:32</time>
And then I just, I literally went on YouTube and started finding some of the

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:35</time>
biggest history content creators I could.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:37</time>
And I just.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:38</time>
Email them blind, right?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:39</time>
And just said, Hey, I'm starting to say that.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:41</time>
Yeah, exactly.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:44</time>
And I basically just said, Hey, you know, the, the concept is

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:47</time>
a rising tide lifts all boats.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:48</time>
And so we're hoping that no cost to you.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:51</time>
I made a Google form.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:52</time>
They fill it out in five, 10 minutes and I just kind of create a profile

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:02:56</time>
page for them and then I, I asked them, Hey, you know, The concept

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:00</time>
behind history or die is it's kind of a nod to that, um, join or die, which

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:05</time>
is that that call for unity, right?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:07</time>
Hey, we're trying to get together to learn history because it's important.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:12</time>
Same thing with the join or die that Ben Franklin put out in May of 15,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:19</time>
Um, so he, so he put it out then and it was like, Hey, we need to

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:22</time>
stay together because if we don't, then, you know, we're going to die.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:26</time>
And so that's, that's the concept is, is that call of.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:30</time>
Hey, you know, good quality history content is really going

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:32</time>
to, it can only help, right?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:35</time>
Um, it'll keep us together.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:36</time>
And so, um, I'm working on some stuff.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:39</time>
I'm just, we're getting busy cause I'm PCSing soon and, uh, uh, trying to,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:44</time>
trying to get some of the big channels to promote the site, which will bring up the

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:47</time>
smaller channels because we'll get lots of people there and kind of just build it.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:51</time>
And so any history or die stuff that's bought off of our, off of

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:54</time>
our walk with history gift shop actually goes towards that site.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:03:58</time>
Um, and we try not to put ourselves out front.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:04:00</time>
This is kind of a community thing.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:04:02</time>
Um, think of it

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:04:03</time>
as the history channel.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:04:04</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:04:05</time>
So that

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:04:05</time>
has real history.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:04:06</time>
I love

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:04:06</time>
it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:04:07</time>
I think it's

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:04:08</time>
fantastic.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:04:09</time>
Yeah,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:04:09</time>
but

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:04:10</time>
yeah, that's, that's one of my favorite shirts we, we made recently.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:04:12</time>
That's, that's a cool one.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:04:15</time>
Well, Doug, you got anything left?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:04:17</time>
I just need to

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:04:18</time>
know

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:04:18</time>
tank

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:04:18</time>
over there.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:04:19</time>
Out of, out of all the places that you've been, what is like the number one place

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:04:27</time>
that you want to go and do an episode on?

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:04:31</time>
So like, so it'd be like your dream vacation of a history episode.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:04:36</time>
Your bucket

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:04:36</time>
list.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:04:37</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:04:38</time>
Oh, like

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:04:38</time>
the big bucket list.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:04:39</time>
Yes.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:04:39</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:04:41</time>
What did we, probably the Monument Valley of the searchers.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:04:45</time>
I mean, for me, so I'd say within America, it's definitely

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:04:50</time>
going out to Monument Valley.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:04:52</time>
In Utah, trying

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:04:53</time>
to recreate some of those scenes from the searchers, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:04:55</time>
When he's like looking over the valley and I want to

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:04:58</time>
retire

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:04:58</time>
in Utah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:04:59</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:05:00</time>
It's so beautiful.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:05:01</time>
I'd

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:05:01</time>
say here in America, that's definitely like highest on our list

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:05:05</time>
for, for me personally, if I was going to do, I could go anywhere, right.

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<time>01:05:09</time>
The budget budget, no price.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:05:11</time>
Um, I've always wanted to go to Switzerland because I just think that

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:05:16</time>
the country is just as a kid, right.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:05:18</time>
Purely there and I'm sure there's history there like there's the Matterhorn and

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:05:21</time>
stuff like that right being a climber There's plenty of history there When it

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:05:25</time>
comes to that kind of kind of realm and I would love to go see like Setha you were

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:05:29</time>
saying some of those Just truly ancient.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:05:32</time>
Yeah

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:05:32</time>
sites like if we were gonna do a world travel for a year for the channel

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:05:37</time>
That's kind of what I'd probably start with is some of those truly ancient sites,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:05:41</time>
right?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:05:41</time>
Go, go into Istanbul and going into the cathedral there and seeing Viking

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:05:46</time>
graffiti up on the wall, Petra,

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:05:49</time>
I'd like to go to Petra, you see the

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:05:50</time>
pyramids.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:05:51</time>
Even though I know a lot of that stuff, there's touristy stuff around

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:05:53</time>
it now, like, um, but I would love to.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:05:56</time>
To do that stuff.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:05:57</time>
And then I'm sure you give me enough time.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:06:00</time>
I'll find some places that are off the beaten path and then

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:06:03</time>
then I'll really be in my element kind of away from the crowds.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:06:06</time>
Yeah, let's go.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:06:07</time>
I wanna go to Jerusalem and find the Holy Grail.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:10</time>
Right?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:11</time>
Right.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:12</time>
And there's I mean, there's a lot of places around the world where

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:13</time>
you just, you know, if you get an opportunity to go see him, you should.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:16</time>
Yeah, they won't always be there.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:18</time>
Even if they're natural ones like me.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:20</time>
I was, I grew up with, uh, what was it?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:22</time>
Uh, the old man in the mountain up in New Hampshire, right?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:25</time>
No longer there.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:26</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:26</time>
Um, it's, uh, I mean, we'll, we'll look at China for instance.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:31</time>
Um, China during the fifties and the sixties lost a large portion

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:37</time>
of, of its, uh, heritage sites.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:06:39</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:40</time>
Italy was

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:06:40</time>
doing that too during World War II.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:42</time>
Yeah, Italy, Italy as well.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:43</time>
And it's such a shame.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:45</time>
But I would love, I would love to set foot in just ancient

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:49</time>
Greek, you know, and Roman areas.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:52</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:53</time>
You know, I just, take me there, please.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:06:56</time>
Yeah,

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:06:57</time>
I would too.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:06:57</time>
I would like to see some Greek.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:06:59</time>
We were in, um, I think it was Italia Turkey, uh, with the Navy.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:07:04</time>
And I was sitting in a Coliseum eating a sandwich and they were like,

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:07:09</time>
this has been around since 1500 BC.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:07:11</time>
And I'm just sitting there eating a sandwich going, I'm sitting here

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:07:13</time>
where people sat and watched and it's been around since before Christ.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:07:18</time>
Like it's just, it's hard to me to even fathom, right?

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:07:21</time>
And I'm just sitting

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:07:23</time>
the entire score from the gladiator.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:07:26</time>
Yeah, inside the Roman Coliseum.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:07:29</time>
I was like, how, how you get better than that?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:07:32</time>
Doug, where, where would you

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:07:33</time>
go if you could, if you go anywhere?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:07:37</time>
Anywhere but Connecticut.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:07:40</time>
No, I'm kidding.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:07:41</time>
Um, I really don't know.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:07:43</time>
Like I'm, I'm a, Huge.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:07:46</time>
Um, like I'm really big into, uh, the Renaissance, so I really

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:07:52</time>
would love to visit like England and Scotland and all that.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:07:55</time>
I think the, that countryside is just absolutely gorgeous.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:07:58</time>
Switzerland is, I mean, I agree with you.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:08:00</time>
It's absolutely like you look at the pictures and stuff and it just

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:08:05</time>
seems like a magical place to go to, but I don't think I have a.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:08:10</time>
Like number one place that I would like to go, because I mean, and then this

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:08:14</time>
is going to sound kind of cheesy and cliche, but it, I look at, I drive down

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:08:19</time>
the road, even if I drive an hour away from my house, like I'm thankful enough

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:08:23</time>
just to be able to visit that area.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:08:25</time>
Because like you said, there's people who don't have that opportunity.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:08:29</time>
So.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:08:30</time>
I mean, I get excited when we drive down to Long Island for a weekend.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:08:33</time>
So it's like the only person I'm joking.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:08:36</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:08:38</time>
I mean, I would definitely love to do like the Switzerland, Ireland, Scotland,

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:08:42</time>
London, all that, all that stuff.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:08:44</time>
So we did Ireland and Scotland.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:08:46</time>
We didn't know we were pregnant with our first and I drank Guinness like every day.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:08:51</time>
So I always say our first was swimming in Guinness.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:08:54</time>
We went to Kong Ireland when they filmed the quiet man, the John

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:08:58</time>
Wayne movie, we stayed in Ashford castle where the whole cast stayed.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:09:02</time>
And we walked like a lot of the scenes of the quiet man.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:09:04</time>
We walked and did all of them.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:09:06</time>
It was, that was cool to do.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:09:08</time>
And we watched the quiet man pretty much every St.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:09:11</time>
Patrick's day.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:09:12</time>
So it was neat to actually be there and to see it.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:09:15</time>
And, uh, if you watch our top 10, John Wayne, like it's, it's in there for me.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:09:19</time>
It's it's coming.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:09:20</time>
That

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:09:21</time>
video is coming.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:09:22</time>
And

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:09:22</time>
that was like his, my top 10, that's his youngest role.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:09:26</time>
And I think he's 45 in it, but I think that's like John Wayne

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:09:30</time>
at his, his almost his best.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:09:32</time>
I can't, I can't remember the name of it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:09:36</time>
It's a, it's a temple in India.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:09:38</time>
Um, and the only aspects that I remember of it is, is that.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:09:43</time>
monks would go live their entire lives there.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:09:45</time>
And the point of the temple is that it's built like a ziggurat, right?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:09:48</time>
So you wind around it all the way to the top and the entire pathway, there

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:09:54</time>
are carvings, they're independent of each other and there's lessons

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:09:58</time>
to be learned from every carving.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:10:00</time>
So monks would spend their entire lives meditating in front of a carving,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:10:04</time>
trying to like, the divine, the deep meaning of what's there and slowly work

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:10:10</time>
their way up all the way to the top.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:10:12</time>
When you get there, the, the view is so alien almost that it's like

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:10:20</time>
you've actually reached nirvana.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:10:23</time>
And that was the whole point of it.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:10:24</time>
It

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:10:24</time>
was that by then, if you, if you have sussed out the meanings

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:10:29</time>
of each one of these things, then you have become enlightened.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:10:33</time>
And then this is that place for you.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:10:35</time>
And I just found that fascinating.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:10:37</time>
That is cool.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:10:38</time>
Well, you're a very visual guy, comic books, you know, like,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:10:42</time>
yeah.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:10:42</time>
And I mean, if you're walking a tower and you're not looking out because

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:10:46</time>
you're staring at the The carving, and you're not looking the other way,

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:10:50</time>
then when you finally get to the top is the first time you're looking, then

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:10:53</time>
yeah, it probably would seem awesome.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:10:55</time>
Right?

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:10:58</time>
But that's what I'm talking about.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:10:59</time>
Places like

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:11:00</time>
those.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:11:02</time>
Yeah, that's neat.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:11:03</time>
That is neat, though.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:11:04</time>
Yeah, that's one of the places I had actually tried to go.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:11:06</time>
was Nepal.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:11:07</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:11:07</time>
We wanted to do the hike to ever space camp to Kevin.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:11:11</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:11:12</time>
And, uh, when I, when I got out of the Navy at the time, it was off limits.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:11:15</time>
Um, so I couldn't go.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:18</time>
Well, I think, uh, I think that's what we'll call it for the day.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:21</time>
I could sit here all night and talk about history with you guys.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:24</time>
I love people that I can learn from.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:26</time>
Um, and it's fun.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:29</time>
Yeah, it is.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:29</time>
It is.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:30</time>
And especially like, like Doug and I were talking about the way that you

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:32</time>
guys deliver, um, Uh, the history makes you want to know more, makes you want

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:38</time>
to know more about, you know, American history, history in general, um, and it

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:43</time>
can sometimes spark that thirst for it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:45</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:45</time>
Uh, which is, which is great.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:47</time>
I think you guys do.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:49</time>
An amazing service to, to the history itself and a service to everyone

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:54</time>
else, uh, by continuing to teach it.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:11:57</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:57</time>
Um, I agree.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:58</time>
So yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:59</time>
And also I agree.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:11:59</time>
Thank you for your service.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:12:01</time>
for your service.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:12:03</time>
Even the

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:12:03</time>
army guy,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:12:07</time>
Doug's, Doug's hating this.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:12:08</time>
You got no chance to go by.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:12:10</time>
There's more Navy guys, bunch

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:12:11</time>
of Navy folks on this.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:12:12</time>
You got no chance.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:12:13</time>
I'll admit before we cut out, I will admit, so I work for the fleet

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:12:17</time>
and family support center at our.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:12:19</time>
At our submarine base here in Connecticut.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:12:21</time>
Oh, yeah.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:12:22</time>
Okay.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:12:22</time>
Oh, since I've started working for them, I've said the, the army and the

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:12:28</time>
Marines, they're, they're there to just like mess stuff up the Navy and the

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:12:33</time>
air force are definitely the smarter of the branches because it's like some of

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:12:38</time>
these people I talk to, I mean, granted, a lot of them are nukes and they just,

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:12:42</time>
you They have to just like dissect everything, but it's, I will admit, I am

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:12:48</time>
outnumbered in the smart department here.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:12:52</time>
No, it was great.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:12:53</time>
It was,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:12:53</time>
this, this, this was, this was super, super fun guys.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:12:57</time>
And we'll, I will absolutely make sure that we, we share this, uh,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:13:00</time>
you know, a bunch, whenever you guys kind of end up getting it posted.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:13:02</time>
So thank you for what you do.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:13:04</time>
Guys, I

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:13:07</time>
hope that anybody watching, especially anybody from our audience,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:13:10</time>
um, that they may come over here and watch this and make it to this point.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:13:13</time>
Like, you know, support the, your guys guardians of the purple harp foundation.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:13:17</time>
That's awesome.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:13:17</time>
Yeah, that's really awesome.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:13:18</time>
Appreciate

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:13:19</time>
it.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:13:19</time>
Thank you.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:13:19</time>
Appreciate that.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:13:20</time>
I'm going to close this tab, uh, how to sound smart at history.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:13:26</time>
So, yeah, so real quick, before we close out, um, Tell us

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:13:30</time>
where we can find you guys.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:13:31</time>
Um, I know you got the merchandise, which, you know, we brought up there.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:13:35</time>
I'm absolutely getting one of these and one of these, the

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:13:40</time>
shirt and the bumper sticker.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:13:41</time>
I love it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:13:42</time>
Um, I break for historic markers.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:13:45</time>
I love it so much.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:13:47</time>
And then we have our YouTube channel and we can find you on, I'm assuming Spotify.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:13:52</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:13:52</time>
So,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:13:53</time>
so our walk with history stuff, obviously on YouTube.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:13:56</time>
Um, The probably easiest place to find everything that we're doing, um, is

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:14:01</time>
our main website, which you can get to that main link on our YouTube channel,

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:14:04</time>
but it's walk with history dot net.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:14:06</time>
Um, so walk with history dot net.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:14:08</time>
Um, you'll you'll find links to our podcast, which is talk with history.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:14:12</time>
Um, I try.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:14:14</time>
A newsletter.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:14:15</time>
I'm not very good at being consistent about it.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:14:17</time>
So it went from monthly to by month by monthly.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:14:20</time>
Um, but uh, but yeah, so pretty active on Instagram.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:14:24</time>
If you're kind of for daily stuff, if you really want to interact with

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:14:27</time>
us, um, Instagram walk with history, uh, Jen's very, very active on there.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:14:32</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:14:33</time>
Community is growing pretty fast.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:14:34</time>
Let us know where you're going to be.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:14:36</time>
I saw your booths and stuff.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:14:38</time>
I would love to come out and.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:14:40</time>
Collaborate and make a reel.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:14:42</time>
I like doing Instagram, like daily things.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:14:44</time>
There are some people who are much more into the daily Mm-Hmm.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:14:47</time>
quick bites of history.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:14:49</time>
And there's people who like the longer form videos, so.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:14:51</time>
Well,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:14:51</time>
I'll tell you what, I'll, I'll, I'll promise you this as I

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:14:54</time>
go throughout my travels 'cause I'm always looking for fun history stuff

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:14:58</time>
I stumble across anything good.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:14:59</time>
I'll make a post for it and I'll, I'll tag you guys.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:15:02</time>
Perfect.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:15:02</time>
Perfect, perfect.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:15:03</time>
Alright.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:15:04</time>
It's gonna be awesome.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:15:05</time>
Um, so yeah, we and you guys get

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:15:07</time>
your Patreon.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:15:07</time>
I believe as well.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:15:08</time>
We do have our Patreon.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:15:10</time>
You know what?

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:15:10</time>
I love when people go over there.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:15:13</time>
Um, in the future when I actually am not working full time and getting ready

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:15:17</time>
to move and all that stuff, I will invest more time into, into being able

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:15:20</time>
to put more out exclusive content.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:15:23</time>
Um, really, if you, if you find our YouTube channel or if you find our

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:15:25</time>
podcast, um, those are the two places that, that we point people to the most.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:15:30</time>
Patreon is great.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:15:31</time>
Um, but, but I definitely don't, I don't push it out there too much because

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:15:35</time>
that's not the primary goal right now.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:15:37</time>
The primary goal is for us to inspire people to get out there

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:15:40</time>
and go find historic places.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:15:41</time>
So,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:15:41</time>
well, you've successfully inspired over 22, 000 people to watch your channel.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:15:47</time>
So yes, in 2001.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:15:51</time>
I love it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:15:51</time>
There we go.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:15:52</time>
Okay.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:15:52</time>
Yeah, we are.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:15:53</time>
We are.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:15:53</time>
I subscribed on my personal account and the show's account.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:15:58</time>
Thank you.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:15:59</time>
Absolutely.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:00</time>
All right, folks.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:00</time>
Well, it has been an absolute pleasure having you on the show.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:03</time>
Um, and, uh, if we want to do this again, if you ever guys, whenever I

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:06</time>
come back on, all you gotta do is ask.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:08</time>
Awesome.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:16:09</time>
Definitely

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:09</time>
once you definitely come into the fold of the Guardian family, you,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:13</time>
you're here to stay as long as you want.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:14</time>
Um, if you're in the area you wanna come out to event, I'm, I'll be there.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:17</time>
I'm kidding.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:20</time>
. Um, uh, yeah, if you're in the area at any point in time you wanna

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:22</time>
come out to an event that we're having, you're more than welcome.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:24</time>
You can be our guest honor.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:26</time>
Um, maybe we can actually get you in the studio.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:28</time>
If that's ever the case.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:29</time>
I don't expect some surface sailors to make it up to Connecticut.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:34</time>
. Scott: Be a, be a little tougher for, for me.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:37</time>
I'll, I'll leave, uh, gentle leave you with this.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:40</time>
Um, I have two German shepherds that are named Maverick and goose.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:16:44</time>
Nice.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:16:45</time>
You guys are going to love this.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:16:46</time>
My maiden name before I married Scott was Mitchell.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:16:50</time>
So I was Lieutenant Mitchell and I heard all the jokes that my

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:16:53</time>
name wasn't the best in the Navy.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:57</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:16:57</time>
Um, uh, Top Gun is, is Nick, our producer and our president for the

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:17:01</time>
Connecticut chapters and mine's favorite movie followed very,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:17:05</time>
very closely by Wayne's world.

<cite>Jenn:</cite>
<time>01:17:07</time>
Hey, they're both great.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:17:09</time>
Yeah.

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:17:09</time>
And you happen to forget that my ride name in the motorcycle

<cite>Doug:</cite>
<time>01:17:12</time>
community happens to be goose.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:17:17</time>
So, all right, folks, we'll, we'll close it down here.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:17:20</time>
Um, guys, thank you so much for coming on.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:17:22</time>
But, uh, we greatly appreciate it.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:17:25</time>
Uh, if you're watching at home, uh, make sure you subscribe

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:17:29</time>
to a walking the history.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:17:30</time>
Uh, and if you're.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:17:32</time>
Watching us for the first time.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:17:33</time>
Be cool if you subscribe to us as well, you know, um, but they got a cooler show.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:17:41</time>
We'll take it home from here.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:17:42</time>
Um, as usual, thanks for watching, uh, share, like subscribe and,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:17:47</time>
uh, stay proud, stay grateful.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:17:50</time>
We'll see you next time,

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:17:58</time>
Joaquin, with history.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:17:59</time>
That was awesome with history, Joaquin with history.

<cite>Seth:</cite>
<time>01:18:02</time>
Oh my God, , I'll do my outro.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:18:12</time>
I hope you enjoyed our conversation with the Cover Down podcast.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:18:16</time>
If you wanna support the Guardians of the Purple Heart, there are links in our

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:18:19</time>
show notes, or you can do a quick search for a Guardians of the Purple Heart.

<cite>Scott:</cite>
<time>01:18:23</time>
Thank you, and we'll talk to you next time.

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