The Battle for History: How Do We Teach Controversial Figures?

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<p>greetings and welcome to the talk with</p>
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<p>History Podcast I am your host Scott and</p>
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<p>I'm here with my wife and historian Jen</p>
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<p>on this podcast we talk about</p>
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<p>history's continuing impact on all of us</p>
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<p>and our personal Journey even me and Jen</p>
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<p>through YouTube is we kind of go out</p>
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<p>with a family and explore and we record</p>
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<p>and we share our history walks with our</p>
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<p>subscribers and our community and the</p>
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<p>walk with history community so</p>
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<p>um so Jen what are we what are we</p>
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<p>talking today on the talk with History</p>
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<p>Podcast So today we're going to cover</p>
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<p>our very first video on walk with</p>
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<p>history okay so what was what was that</p>
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<p>what was our very first video that we</p>
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<p>made once you kind of recap that for</p>
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<p>anyone who hasn't seen it so the very</p>
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<p>first video for walk with history on</p>
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<p>YouTube is Nathan Bedford Forrest and</p>
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<p>we're going to talk about why he was the</p>
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<p>first video and</p>
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<p>then get into</p>
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<p>the man himself so okay</p>
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<p>before we do that I have a very</p>
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<p>important question okay why was Forrest</p>
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<p>Gump named after Nathan Bedford Forest</p>
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<p>because a lot of people don't realize</p>
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<p>that in the movie Forrest Gump that's</p>
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<p>who he's named after I think she says to</p>
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<p>remind him that sometimes people do</p>
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<p>things that just don't make no sense</p>
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<p>that's what she says right that's right</p>
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<p>yeah that's what she says yeah and I</p>
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<p>think</p>
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<p>and they're related to him right aren't</p>
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<p>they like distantly related to him and</p>
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<p>she wanted to name him after that to</p>
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<p>remind him that people do things</p>
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<p>sometimes that just don't make no sense</p>
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<p>like those are her words yeah and and I</p>
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<p>bring that up because I think that kind</p>
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<p>of ties that thread like you like to say</p>
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<p>ties through why you did yes</p>
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<p>to walk with history on on Nathan</p>
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<p>Bedford 4 so tell us how why that was</p>
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<p>our</p>
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<p>first one okay and kind of where that</p>
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<p>came from sure so we had just moved to</p>
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<p>Memphis in July of 2016.</p>
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<p>and</p>
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<p>Memphis was completely new for us so</p>
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<p>Scott is from California born and raised</p>
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<p>did some college in Maryland and then I</p>
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<p>am from all over but never the South</p>
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<p>even though I was born in North Carolina</p>
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<p>which is</p>
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<p>is the South but I was only there for</p>
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<p>two years and then we quickly moved to</p>
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<p>Hawaii and Wyoming and Pennsylvania</p>
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<p>so when we both moved to Memphis in July</p>
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<p>of 2016 we were really surrounded by a</p>
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<p>different culture</p>
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<p>and I wanted to start a Facebook page</p>
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<p>called walk with history for my family</p>
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<p>and and for your family and for our</p>
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<p>friends</p>
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<p>so we could kind of teach them about the</p>
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<p>history of Memphis and the surrounding</p>
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<p>areas that none of us really had been</p>
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<p>a privy to before so that was the whole</p>
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<p>point and the first video I did was</p>
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<p>Nathan Bedford Forrest and it's because</p>
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<p>of his statue that was right in the</p>
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<p>middle of the city of Memphis so I</p>
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<p>thought that would we would drive by it</p>
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<p>and we had no clue who he was until we</p>
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<p>lived in Memphis and we had no clue what</p>
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<p>even statue that was until we had to ask</p>
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<p>people and then we were like well who is</p>
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<p>this guy and why does he have a statue</p>
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<p>in the middle of Memphis and so that was</p>
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<p>really the emphasis of that video to</p>
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<p>kind of explain who he was why is the</p>
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<p>Statue here</p>
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<p>and what does it mean for the city</p>
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<p>yeah yeah and I think that's one of the</p>
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<p>cool things that a lot of people who've</p>
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<p>only seen walk with history the YouTube</p>
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<p>channel don't know is that was</p>
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<p>four or five years before we ever</p>
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<p>started walk with history on on YouTube</p>
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<p>right you just literally just grabbed</p>
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<p>your phone vertical video which drove me</p>
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<p>crazy yes and posted it up you made a</p>
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<p>Facebook page and you posted it up and</p>
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<p>you shared it with a bunch of friends</p>
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<p>and they thought it was interesting and</p>
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<p>all of a sudden you had all these</p>
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<p>friends like oh my gosh can I be part of</p>
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<p>this Facebook page and</p>
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<p>you you started Gathering like a mini</p>
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<p>following there I think you know I think</p>
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<p>today where there's a couple hundred not</p>
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<p>as many as the YouTube channel but</p>
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<p>there was interest there yes and</p>
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<p>videoing it vertically was a challenge</p>
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<p>then trying to make it our first YouTube</p>
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<p>video because we had to try to make that</p>
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<p>video that vertical video into a</p>
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<p>horizontal video for that first</p>
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<p>YouTube video but we I felt it was</p>
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<p>important to revisit</p>
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<p>that because in the last five years from</p>
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<p>the time I had done the original video</p>
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<p>to when we had done the YouTube video</p>
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<p>things had changed so what what things</p>
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<p>had changed um since I think you did the</p>
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<p>vertical the original video just the</p>
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<p>original walk in 2016. So what had</p>
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<p>changed between then and when we started</p>
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<p>well the statue had been removed that's</p>
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<p>right and there was still</p>
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<p>there was still talk because what the</p>
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<p>the interesting thing about the Nathan</p>
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<p>bedford's Forest statue is he's actually</p>
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<p>buried underneath it and his wife is</p>
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<p>buried underneath it so that caused a</p>
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<p>lot of</p>
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<p>difficulties because you had to also</p>
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<p>remove a grave and change a grave so</p>
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<p>there was a lot of legal proceedings</p>
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<p>that went with that so the statue had</p>
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<p>been removed for a long time the</p>
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<p>pedestal</p>
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<p>had not so I wanted to update viewers on</p>
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<p>what had happened since then and what</p>
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<p>was going to happen to the Statue and to</p>
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<p>the the bodies of Nathan Bedford Forrest</p>
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<p>and his wife yeah and and just to kind</p>
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<p>of reset the context of the scene is in</p>
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<p>2016 the video or the statue was still</p>
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<p>up there right you're going there and</p>
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<p>there was some stuff on the ground I</p>
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<p>think it was some black lives matter</p>
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<p>stuff that was on the ground that wasn't</p>
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<p>there until no that wasn't until later</p>
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<p>yeah in 2016 there was nothing yeah so</p>
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<p>in 2016 you did the original video the</p>
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<p>statue was up there and then fast</p>
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<p>forward a couple years when nationally</p>
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<p>there was a the black lives matter</p>
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<p>movement had kind of surfaced or</p>
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<p>resurfaced yes and statues all around</p>
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<p>the country specifically largely through</p>
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<p>the South for obvious reasons</p>
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<p>um Civil War era statues they people had</p>
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<p>been taking them down or arguing to take</p>
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<p>them down and all of a sudden Nathan</p>
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<p>Bedford Forest yes</p>
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<p>be gain Center Attention Center Stage in</p>
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<p>the Memphis area so tell us about Nathan</p>
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<p>Bedford Forest and kind of Briefly</p>
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<p>summarize</p>
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<p>who he was and what people did know or</p>
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<p>didn't know about him so he's a</p>
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<p>the confusing and interesting</p>
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<p>person first of all his statue is right</p>
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<p>in the middle of Memphis like rape</p>
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<p>beside Sun Studio so if you know</p>
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<p>anything about Memphis in the history of</p>
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<p>Memphis it's really known for its music</p>
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<p>history Sun Studios where Elvis Presley</p>
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<p>was originally recorded and that's what</p>
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<p>Johnny Cash did a lot of his recording</p>
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<p>so you can see the statue from Sun</p>
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<p>Studio so it was a very prominent statue</p>
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<p>in the city</p>
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<p>he was</p>
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<p>a slave trader and being a student of</p>
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<p>American history and getting my Master's</p>
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<p>in American history</p>
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<p>at the University of Memphis using that</p>
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<p>term slave trader</p>
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<p>comes under a lot of controversy because</p>
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<p>that term kind of equates to an equal</p>
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<p>trade of Commodities and when you're</p>
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<p>talking about trafficking people and</p>
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<p>selling people there really is no</p>
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<p>equality of commodity there so it really</p>
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<p>downplays</p>
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<p>what is really happening in that</p>
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<p>situation so I don't I might switch back</p>
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<p>and forth with my verbiage saying human</p>
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<p>trafficker or slave trader</p>
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<p>just so you understand really what he is</p>
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<p>doing so he what's he best known for I</p>
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<p>bet he's known for a couple things</p>
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<p>the slave trading he makes his millions</p>
<p></p>
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<p>in that then he becomes a confederate</p>
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<p>general in the Civil War right and</p>
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<p>that's what the statue depicted the</p>
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<p>statute depicted him on a horse in his</p>
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<p>Civil War uniform and he is a general of</p>
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<p>the Calgary in Tennessee and he is for</p>
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<p>all intents and purposes he is a good</p>
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<p>General in the fact that he is evasive</p>
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<p>and unable to be captured and can make a</p>
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<p>really strong fight and for those</p>
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<p>reasons Grant has a famous line that is</p>
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<p>called that that devil Forest because he</p>
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<p>was hard to capture and hard to overcome</p>
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<p>of course he never ends up winning you</p>
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<p>know the Civil War is not one so he</p>
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<p>comes back to Tennessee and starts to</p>
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<p>make his way in the railroad industry</p>
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<p>and then he is known for being the first</p>
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<p>Grand wizard of the Klu Klux Klan so</p>
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<p>he's not known and that's what they</p>
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<p>depict in Forrest Gump and that's what</p>
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<p>they depict and that's really where the</p>
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<p>controversy came out in the 2019 time</p>
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<p>frame when all those statues were</p>
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<p>getting torn down that was the focus on</p>
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<p>the public and the media in the Memphis</p>
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<p>Area even I remember not being a history</p>
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<p>guy it was all over the news yes and</p>
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<p>that was the focus right it was Nathan</p>
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<p>Bedford Forrest the the first Grand</p>
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<p>Master of the Ku Klux Klan yes grand</p>
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<p>wizard Grand wizard um</p>
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<p>but there's a lot of context that the</p>
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<p>news and media doesn't give so that's</p>
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<p>that's what I said it's confusing he was</p>
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<p>not a originator of the Klu Klux Klan he</p>
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<p>did not start the Ku Klux Klan that was</p>
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<p>start it started in Polansky</p>
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<p>um Tennessee which is about I would say</p>
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<p>two hours to the east of Memphis and</p>
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<p>it's it's well documented there</p>
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<p>um the people who actually started the</p>
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<p>clan and then even</p>
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<p>there is no real direct</p>
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<p>documentation that shows him as the</p>
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<p>grand wizard there's a account</p>
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<p>of him being in a hotel in Nashville</p>
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<p>where a hotel room where they had</p>
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<p>gathered for a clan meeting and they had</p>
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<p>elected him the first Grand Wizard and</p>
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<p>someone gives that account now I don't</p>
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<p>think</p>
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<p>Forest ever</p>
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<p>um verifies that and agrees with that</p>
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<p>I do think that he was there is accounts</p>
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<p>that he is definitely evolved involved</p>
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<p>in the clan</p>
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<p>the clan had a different kind of</p>
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<p>beginning than what we think of it today</p>
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<p>it really was at first to stop</p>
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<p>Northerners coming down south and taking</p>
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<p>southern land and taking Southern jobs</p>
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<p>and so to push the carpetbaggers back</p>
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<p>but it was always violent and that's</p>
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<p>that was their means of stopping people</p>
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<p>and then then it definitely turned into</p>
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<p>a racial violence but you get</p>
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<p>Forest testifying at one point that he</p>
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<p>that some African-American men had been</p>
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<p>lynched and he said that him himself</p>
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<p>would go out with the party to catch the</p>
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<p>lynchers</p>
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<p>so I am I'm not arguing for or against</p>
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<p>forest in any way I have no ties to</p>
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<p>Forest or the area I always feel like an</p>
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<p>interloper when I talk about stuff like</p>
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<p>this because I am I'm definitely feel</p>
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<p>like a Yankee</p>
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<p>but I do want all the information out</p>
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<p>there because this was the confusing</p>
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<p>part for me</p>
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<p>learning about him as a student of</p>
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<p>American History at the University of</p>
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<p>Memphis is there was definitely things</p>
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<p>on both sides that I could see and</p>
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<p>I knew that he had done terrible things</p>
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<p>but I also in the end he gives a speech</p>
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<p>at a pallbearers Association</p>
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<p>in in favor of African Americans and</p>
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<p>African-American education and he's</p>
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<p>actually presented Flowers by an</p>
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<p>African-American woman and he kisses her</p>
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<p>on the cheek now I have professors that</p>
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<p>feel that that was all part of a scheme</p>
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<p>to get Workers for his railroad business</p>
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<p>but there's no verification of that so</p>
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<p>those are the things you have to you</p>
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<p>have to worry about as a historian is</p>
<p></p>
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<p>you can't just I think it was this well</p>
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<p>is there a document that said we that</p>
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<p>Forrest said I did this because I really</p>
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<p>just wanted people to come work for my</p>
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<p>Railroad</p>
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<p>it unless you have those things you're</p>
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<p>really just guessing as a historian yeah</p>
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<p>and I think</p>
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<p>from my perspective is watching you go</p>
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<p>through your graduate education and</p>
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<p>watching you learn about these things</p>
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<p>and you coming home and talking to me</p>
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<p>about them</p>
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<p>you know I started hearing this and I</p>
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<p>had the initial reaction that probably</p>
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<p>most people do and the people listening</p>
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<p>to this podcast is saying like well is</p>
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<p>she kind of being an apologizer for</p>
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<p>Nathan Bedford for us and I learned that</p>
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<p>that's not the case at all really what</p>
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<p>you're doing what a historian should do</p>
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<p>is consider and learn and talk about all</p>
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<p>the facts and like you've said try to</p>
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<p>remove your own personal bias</p>
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<p>so that's that's kind of the historian's</p>
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<p>job yes is is to do that and so I</p>
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<p>thought that was very interesting</p>
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<p>because this is a an incredibly</p>
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<p>uncomfortable subject for a lot of</p>
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<p>people yes and he was a very</p>
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<p>controversial figure for that part of</p>
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<p>his life for for um and so when the</p>
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<p>statues started getting taken down all</p>
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<p>throughout the South and the in 2019</p>
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<p>time frame that was a big thing in the</p>
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<p>Memphis Area they did in the middle of</p>
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<p>the night which a lot of people didn't</p>
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<p>agree with and and this that and the</p>
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<p>other so</p>
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<p>um that's one of the things that I found</p>
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<p>very interesting was</p>
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<p>something as uncomfortable and</p>
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<p>controversial as</p>
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<p>Nathan Bedford Forrest who many the only</p>
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<p>thing they really know him for is that</p>
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<p>if they know anything at all they might</p>
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<p>know him for Forrest Gump or as the</p>
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<p>first Grand wizard of the</p>
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<p>KKK yes and there was a lot more there</p>
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<p>not apologizing or not vouching for or</p>
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<p>against but</p>
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<p>taking the whole picture into account</p>
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<p>absolutely like so I was a part of a</p>
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<p>group that actually had a marker put up</p>
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<p>at the location a historic Market put up</p>
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<p>at the location where his business was</p>
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<p>his human trafficking business his slave</p>
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<p>trade business on Adams Avenue in</p>
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<p>Memphis we had a marker put up to</p>
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<p>emphasize</p>
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<p>this is how Nathan Bedford Forrest made</p>
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<p>his money he human trafficked people and</p>
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<p>in that ceremony which we did on the</p>
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<p>anniversary of the 50th anniversary of</p>
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<p>the Martin Luther King assassination the</p>
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<p>ceremony to dedicate that marker we read</p>
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<p>the names I say we I was in I was</p>
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<p>present there I didn't read any names</p>
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<p>that day one of my professors did though</p>
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<p>and a couple of my friends did</p>
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<p>researchers found the names I would</p>
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<p>think of</p>
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<p>I don't want to I don't know exactly 80.</p>
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<p>enslaved people that were sold</p>
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<p>by Nathan Bedford Forrest and I mean as</p>
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<p>young as six months old and I I cried I</p>
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<p>cried so I think he's a terrible person</p>
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<p>in that regard I do I I'm what a</p>
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<p>horrible thing to do to sell people</p>
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<p>but as a historian</p>
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<p>I believe that people</p>
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<p>can make up their own minds and my job</p>
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<p>is to give you the facts my job is to</p>
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<p>give you the facts of those names my job</p>
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<p>is to give you the facts of what he did</p>
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<p>in the Civil War what he did after with</p>
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<p>the clan what what is factual about that</p>
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<p>and then what is factual about the</p>
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<p>pallbearer speech and then you have to</p>
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<p>decide is this man</p>
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<p>did he have a a a second chance that he</p>
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<p>to have a change of heart did he decide</p>
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<p>that he was wrong in the end of his life</p>
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<p>do people get that chance in life I mean</p>
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<p>I'm not this is again I'm not</p>
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<p>saying one way or the other how I feel</p>
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<p>about Nathan Bradford 4 is I'm saying</p>
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<p>these are the facts and that's what a</p>
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<p>historian is supposed to do is give them</p>
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<p>to you so you can decide in the end</p>
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<p>the statue was taken down it was taken</p>
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<p>down at night I believe that if a statue</p>
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<p>is put up by the community it has every</p>
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<p>right to be taken down by the community</p>
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<p>especially if the community doesn't feel</p>
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<p>that that that exemplifies how they feel</p>
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<p>about something</p>
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<p>um but I think you and I have talked</p>
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<p>about this before taking it down at</p>
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<p>night I think sends the wrong message</p>
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<p>I think it should be taken down in the</p>
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<p>middle of the day and it should be taken</p>
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<p>down to Fanfare they these statues</p>
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<p>historically go up in great Fanfare they</p>
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<p>go up with great crowds of people</p>
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<p>and a lot of excitement and they should</p>
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<p>be taken down I feel in the same way</p>
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<p>because</p>
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<p>that should be how the community feels</p>
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<p>about it yeah yeah so I think it was an</p>
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<p>interesting one to start it was walk</p>
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<p>with history the our YouTube channel</p>
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<p>with</p>
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<p>um but you did a good job in relaying</p>
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<p>and I think clear you know shining a</p>
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<p>clear spotlight</p>
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<p>on all of the facts yeah and I I wanted</p>
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<p>to emphasize too that he that statute</p>
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<p>didn't go up until</p>
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<p>I can't remember now a little after the</p>
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<p>1900s he had already died and he had</p>
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<p>already been buried at Elmwood Cemetery</p>
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<p>with his wife so his body was moved and</p>
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<p>his wife body was was moved to that Park</p>
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<p>and at the time that Park was the</p>
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<p>outskirts of Memphis</p>
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<p>now it's like the center of Memphis but</p>
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<p>at the time it's the outskirts and it</p>
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<p>was private property and someone had</p>
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<p>paid for the Statue and had it all put</p>
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<p>up then of course that person passed</p>
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<p>away gifts the park to the city and then</p>
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<p>the city has to now have this</p>
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<p>controversial they build around it yes</p>
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<p>yeah and so he's he was not originally</p>
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<p>buried there</p>
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<p>and he has a daughter who actually dies</p>
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<p>Young from um and she's buried at</p>
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<p>Elmwood Cemetery</p>
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<p>and she's she stayed there so he</p>
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<p>originally was buried with his wife and</p>
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<p>young daughter and then they just moved</p>
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<p>him and his wife and left the young</p>
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<p>daughter there so no it was again it was</p>
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<p>a very interesting one and I think</p>
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<p>hopefully for the people listening today</p>
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<p>they learn a little bit about who Nathan</p>
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<p>Bedford Forrest was and more than just</p>
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<p>the namesake of Forrest Gump and someone</p>
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<p>who did something that doesn't make much</p>
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<p>sense as Forrest Gump's mother says and</p>
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<p>also kind of why use this kind of the</p>
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<p>origin story of walk with history this</p>
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<p>is why you started it you started it</p>
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<p>literally just because you enjoy</p>
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<p>sharing your knowledge with friends and</p>
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<p>family on interesting pieces of history</p>
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<p>and you did so literally just by walking</p>
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<p>out to where the statue was and and</p>
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<p>filming</p>
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<p>the only two things that I really think</p>
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<p>about when I think of that statue is</p>
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<p>without that statue I would never know</p>
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<p>who he was</p>
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<p>it was because we had moved there and we</p>
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<p>were driving around and I saw that</p>
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<p>statue and I go what is that who is that</p>
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<p>and Nathan Bedford Forrest who who was</p>
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<p>he and that's when I learned about him</p>
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<p>now I'm not saying that you need a</p>
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<p>statue to learn sure absolutely not but</p>
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<p>I found out more about him because of</p>
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<p>that statue</p>
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<p>I</p>
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<p>don't think the statue is being</p>
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<p>destroyed I think it's going to the sons</p>
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<p>of the Confederacy and Spring Hill</p>
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<p>Tennessee they have a home or a area</p>
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<p>where I think the statue is going and I</p>
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<p>think also the bodies are going there</p>
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<p>they're not even going back to Elmwood</p>
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<p>so</p>
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<p>I don't know if I buy into all of that</p>
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<p>you're destroying history you're taking</p>
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<p>down I I don't not the history doesn't</p>
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<p>get destroyed history does not get made</p>
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<p>by a statue doesn't get destroyed by a</p>
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<p>statue I also don't believe there's</p>
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<p>racism in a statue I believe it's a</p>
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<p>statue I think all the racism and hate</p>
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<p>you feel is in your heart and whatever</p>
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<p>you have learned about a certain person</p>
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<p>or about a certain thing in history it's</p>
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<p>it's what you have learned and what you</p>
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<p>see because if no one even knows who</p>
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<p>that person is looking at a statue of</p>
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<p>them is not going to make them see</p>
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<p>racism</p>
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<p>so I think there has to be a part where</p>
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<p>you were recognizing</p>
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<p>our education and whereas our education</p>
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<p>coming from and who's teaching us and</p>
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<p>what are the nuances that people are</p>
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<p>using for wording some of the the</p>
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<p>collective understanding as well</p>
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<p>Collective understanding and like I said</p>
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<p>like slave trade human trafficking like</p>
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<p>how are things being presented to us in</p>
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<p>an educational level to understand</p>
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<p>things so I think he was a great person</p>
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<p>to learn from in the beginning because</p>
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<p>he was so</p>
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<p>controversial</p>
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<p>and remind you that people again just</p>
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<p>like she says in Forrest Gump</p>
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<p>people do things that don't make much</p>
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<p>sense people do terrible things</p>
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<p>and then people do great things</p>
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<p>and</p>
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<p>when does when does one outweigh the</p>
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<p>other I don't know and I don't I will</p>
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<p>never make that decision but I will try</p>
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<p>to lay all the facts out for you so you</p>
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<p>can make them yeah well again uh thank</p>
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<p>you for kind of giving us your</p>
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<p>perspective on on history and sharing</p>
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<p>that hopefully those who are listening</p>
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<p>who may have seen the video in the past</p>
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<p>on the walk with history YouTube channel</p>
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<p>can either go check it out if you</p>
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<p>haven't seen it and if you have watched</p>
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<p>it before hopefully this provided a</p>
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<p>and thank you for listening so please</p>
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<p>just what I'd encourage folks to do if</p>
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<p>you guys are on that Medium is uh go on</p>
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<p>out there where you guys are listening</p>
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<p>from what part of the country what part</p>
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<p>of the world you can find more of this</p>
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<p>thank you and we'll talk to you guys</p>
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<p>again next week I'd be interested too if</p>
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<p>people knew who Nathan Bedford Forest</p>
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<p>was yes that would be an interesting if</p>
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<p>you could write if you could write did</p>
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<p>you know who he was yeah and where when</p>
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<p>did you learn about him because I did</p>
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<p>not yeah a little little Community poll</p>
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<p>there so so tweeted us at talk with</p>
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<p>history</p>
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<p>um let us know if you knew who Nathan</p>
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<p>Bedford Forest was where you guys are</p>
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<p>from and we look forward to connecting</p>
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<p>with you and talking with you next week</p>
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<p>foreign</p>
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