JFK & Jackie's Newport Wedding | Historic Road Trip to St. Mary's Church

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<p>The humidity in Newport that September morning was heavy, but it was nothing</p>
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<p>compared to the pressure, the sheer electric weight of expectation.</p>
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<p>You're standing on the sidewalk outside St. Mary's Church, and</p>
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<p>honestly, you can barely breathe.</p>
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<p>It feels like the entire eastern seaboard has descended on this</p>
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<p>one little corner of Rhode Island.</p>
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<p>There are over 2000 people packed behind police barricades, craning their necks</p>
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<p>just to catch a glimpse of a veil.</p>
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<p>It's a media frenzy.</p>
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<p>Cameras flashing like summer lightning.</p>
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<p>Scent of expensive perfume mixing with the exhaust of a</p>
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<p>hundred idling limousines inside.</p>
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<p>It's not just a wedding, it's a political coronation.</p>
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<p>You're squeezed into a pew.</p>
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<p>Looking around, there's the future of American power sitting just rows away.</p>
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<p>Senators, diplomats, socialites.</p>
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<p>You spot Vice President Nixon and former President Truman chatting quietly</p>
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<p>with Ed Sullivan, only three feet away from the Asters and the Vanderbilt.</p>
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<p>You see the Kennedys a dynasty in the making their energy</p>
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<p>radiating off the altar.</p>
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<p>As Jacqueline Bouvier walks down that aisle, the air in the church changes.</p>
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<p>It's no longer just a ceremony.</p>
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<p>It's the birth of a myth.</p>
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<p>You can feel it in your bones.</p>
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<p>This isn't just a senator marrying a photographer.</p>
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<p>This is the beginning of something that will define an era.</p>
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<p>It's chaotic.</p>
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<p>It's glamorous, and for every person here it feels like we're watching history.</p>
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<p>Hold its breath.</p>
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<p>Then the doors open.</p>
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<p>The organ swells.</p>
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<p>Fast forward to today, the cameras are gone.</p>
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<p>The crowds have dispersed, but the stone and stained glass of St. Mary's remain.</p>
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<p>That's where Jen takes us in this episode.</p>
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<p>She's walking the same aisles, standing in the same light where a young Jack</p>
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<p>and Jackie stood unknowingly stepping toward a future and a tragedy that</p>
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<p>would change the world forever.</p>
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<p>Welcome to Talk With History.</p>
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<p>I'm your host Scott here with my wife and historian Jen.</p>
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<p>So this video, yeah, you actually recorded probably like six months ago.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>Um, we are recording this podcast episode March of 26.</p>
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<p>You recorded this back in September, I think.</p>
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<p>And.</p>
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<p>It was beautiful time of year up there in Newport.</p>
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<p>One of your last kind of, um, cruises for American Cruise Line, and you got up to</p>
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<p>Newport and you got to go see the church.</p>
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<p>Where JFK married then Jacqueline Bouvier.</p>
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<p>Yeah, so as maybe some of our listeners don't know, I'm the historian on American</p>
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<p>Cruise Line, one of the historians and I do the history talk every night.</p>
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<p>Uh, after we've gotten underway again, before we pull into port the next day</p>
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<p>and I get, I talk about where we're going next and history about it, and</p>
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<p>usually before we pull into Newport, uh, and anytime I do this whole New</p>
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<p>England island area, the Kennedy's is something you just can't Yeah.</p>
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<p>Avoid, right?</p>
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<p>There's so much immersed in Martha's Vineyard and off the coast of, you know.</p>
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<p>Massachusetts Kenny Bun Port, but Newport, and when we pull in with</p>
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<p>the American cruise line, we're right beside Hammersmith Farm.</p>
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<p>And so most people don't realize that our ship docks right beside that farm</p>
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<p>where, uh, the Auckland clauses lived.</p>
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<p>And that is.</p>
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<p>Jackie's stepfather, and that's where her mother marries into that family,</p>
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<p>and that's where they will have their wedding reception and then all through</p>
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<p>JFK's presidency, they will visit there.</p>
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<p>That'll be where they kind of vacation and then they sail out of</p>
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<p>the harbor where we are actually.</p>
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<p>With, uh, American Cruise Line.</p>
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<p>So all those famous sailing pictures, that's all from Newport.</p>
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<p>And if you know anything about Newport, it's a big sailing town anyway, so</p>
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<p>anytime we're on the tram with American Cruise Line, we'll stop, we'll drive</p>
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<p>right by St. Mary's Church, and I always point out that's where they got married.</p>
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<p>Well, I never had a chance to actually go there, and you never know how</p>
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<p>much these historic locations, um.</p>
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<p>Embrace their historic stories.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>It's, it, it definitely varies from what you've seen.</p>
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<p>Yes.</p>
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<p>From, from spot to spot.</p>
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<p>Some places don't wanna be really associated with those historic stories.</p>
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<p>They wanna tell a different story, but this church embraces the marriage</p>
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<p>and they have photographs of it.</p>
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<p>And even when I approach them about filming inside, she was like, yes,</p>
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<p>please do, please tell this story.</p>
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<p>We want more people to know.</p>
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<p>We want more people to visit.</p>
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<p>We actually have the original, uh, kneeling.</p>
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<p>Uh, what did, what do they call those prayer?</p>
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<p>Kind of like, I don't know.</p>
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<p>That's a good question.</p>
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<p>I, I don't know if they have an official name.</p>
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<p>We, I say it in the video, the prayer kneeler that they use and it's the only</p>
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<p>picture from inside, from the wedding.</p>
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<p>They actually have those where they're kneeling and, and saying a prayer during</p>
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<p>the, the mass that is their wedding.</p>
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<p>Um, and so.</p>
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<p>It was super cool, right?</p>
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<p>Because what you don't realize is, as you're walking up to the church is those</p>
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<p>famous photographs really have the, the architecture of the doorway behind</p>
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<p>them, and you're standing right there</p>
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<p>and it hasn't changed, right?</p>
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<p>Mm-hmm.</p>
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<p>Like the one for our listeners, our, you, you can probably picture in your head.</p>
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<p>JFK and Jackie walking out of the church.</p>
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<p>You know, black and white picture, pretty typical kind of this, this,</p>
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<p>uh, this kind of pope type arch.</p>
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<p>Right.</p>
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<p>Kind of an arch up has a point.</p>
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<p>And then within that it's got this circular kind of design typical</p>
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<p>of, of that, that architecture.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>You know, pop.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>Big brown mason masonry.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>Ma masonry over the door.</p>
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<p>Mm-hmm.</p>
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<p>And so you can picture that in your head, you know, those two, kind</p>
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<p>of the picture kind of from down below, catching them coming out.</p>
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<p>Because if you watch our video.</p>
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<p>For our listeners, I'll link this in the show notes.</p>
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<p>If you watch our video, I found one picture that had been taken from up</p>
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<p>high and just this mass of people outside the church as they start walking</p>
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<p>out, and so the fact that you get a couple clean photographs of those two.</p>
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<p>Come walking out.</p>
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<p>That's what you can picture in your head.</p>
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<p>And you're standing right at those doors,</p>
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<p>standing right at those doors.</p>
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<p>So what you have to know about this historically is really,</p>
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<p>this is the birth of Camelot.</p>
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<p>So when we talk about Camelot and the Kennedys, this is their</p>
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<p>fairytale story of American royalty.</p>
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<p>And this wedding really mimics those.</p>
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<p>Images you have of British royalty getting married.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>Like this looks a lot like Diana when she got married.</p>
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<p>It looks a lot like, uh, princess Kate when she gets married to William.</p>
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<p>Like this is America's version of this and it looks just like</p>
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<p>it picks it, it picture perfect.</p>
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<p>Looks like that.</p>
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<p>And so the church is a very big church.</p>
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<p>St. Mary's, Roman Catholic Church is uh.</p>
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<p>It could hold 800 people.</p>
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<p>Yeah,</p>
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<p>it's huge.</p>
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<p>And that's how many people came to that wedding.</p>
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<p>And uh, inside is just beautiful.</p>
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<p>And we'll talk more about the church history, but that's not where Jackie</p>
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<p>had originally gone to church.</p>
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<p>That's not where she wanted to get married.</p>
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<p>Now you have to realize she's a local.</p>
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<p>Yeah, she's a Newport local.</p>
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<p>Like this is where she has been raised.</p>
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<p>And if you know anything about, we've talked about before,</p>
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<p>the Gilded Age and these, uh, aristocratic families of America.</p>
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<p>She's part of that.</p>
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<p>That's why she lives in Newport.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>That's why she's raised in Newport.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>So she comes from some of that old money.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>She comes from that old money.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>When you think of the, are you, like you said, the Rockefellers, the</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Asters, and all these people that live in Newport, the Vanderbilt.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>We've been to those gilded age mansions.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Jackie Boer is part of that her mother has married into, even though Boer was that,</p>
<p></p>
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<p>and her father is part of that, he has.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>It's basically swindled the money away with his habits and he has gambling</p>
<p></p>
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<p>habits and uh, intoxication habits.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>So he has liquor habits and that's also prevents him from walking</p>
<p></p>
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<p>her down the aisle that day.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Yeah,</p>
<p></p>
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<p>that's one of the things that I, when I, I cut some little, couple</p>
<p></p>
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<p>facts I'm gonna try to bring up here.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>That was one of the things that I brought up.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>'cause you can see there's some very quick.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Um, you can find it on YouTube.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>And I put it, I clipped it in the video, very quick footage, video footage of them</p>
<p></p>
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<p>walking out of, of her getting out of her limousine with her stepfather and then</p>
<p></p>
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<p>getting ready to walk into the church.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Um, but that's why it's her stepfather and not her father.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Yes.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>And the Akin Clause family.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Now, if you've seen our videos from Newport, we've gone to</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Jackie's mother's Graves.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>They, they are both buried.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>They're in Newport.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>So you have to think.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>This is very much an aristocratic family.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Now the Kennedys want to be a part of this crowd, right?</p>
<p></p>
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<p>They're not really born into this crowd, but their family has high</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>ambitions and much very high ambitions for John F. Kennedy at the time.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>He's a senator and, uh, marrying into this type of family meets their ambitions.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>And so you can kind of, I wouldn't say it was an arranged</p>
<p></p>
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<p>marriage, but she was an approved.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Person to, to date and to pursue.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Let's put it that way.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>I, but this wedding is just.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Beautiful.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Uh, Robert Kennedy is in like a full on tuxedo with the tails.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Her dress is gorgeous and they have all of these attendants, which you'll learn later</p>
<p></p>
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<p>in history, will be like his brothers.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Yeah, his sisters.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Her sister, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>So these people are gonna play bigger parts in American history and they</p>
<p></p>
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<p>are the attendance to their wedding.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>So it was just super cool to walk down that.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Aisle, you have full access to all of that.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>They sat in Pew 10 when they would come back to Newport and worship.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>You can, I sat in Pew 10.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>I give you a full vantage point of what it would look like to</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>see the church from Pew 10.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>So what they saw every time they would come in and then I walk you over to</p>
<p></p>
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<p>where the wedding couple had, um.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Had prayed on the kneeler and the photograph that exists</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>from the wedding, uh, are those nailers and those are original.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Uh, when Scott was making the video, he's like, there's not</p>
<p></p>
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<p>a lot of pictures from inside.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>From inside the wedding, from inside the chapel.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>And I was like, well, I don't know if that was socially a norm at the time.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Right.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Nowadays, yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>We take a ton of pictures everywhere, but I don't know if that was.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>At the time, not considered prudent to be photographing inside a church.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>And it's so interesting because that just lends to the exclusivity of the event.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Yes.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Right.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>So at the time, partly it was, you know, it was 53, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Mm-hmm.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>So</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>yeah, September 12th, 1953,</p>
<p></p>
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<p>September 12th, 1953.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>So photography was everywhere, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Obviously we've got news reels of this, and so they could have been in</p>
<p></p>
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<p>there, but it just wasn't a thing.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Right like it is nowadays.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>And again, that lent to how exclusive this was.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>And that was, I think, was it Jackie Kennedy's?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Um.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Jacque Le Bo's father who kind of worked, or maybe it was on the</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Kennedy side, worked the guest list.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Oh, it was the Kennedy's.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>It was.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>It was the Kennedy's.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Right.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>So they worked this guest list and they've got political rivals there,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>but they had like just everybody there.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>It was when I looked up a list of, I kind of just typed into Google,</p>
<p></p>
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<p>tell me the list, gimme a list of famous names of people who were at</p>
<p></p>
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<p>the the JFK wedding and I started reading it and I was like, oh my gosh.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Right.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Truman had just had just left office, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>He was, he was there.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Nixon was vice president.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>And so it was just, and, and, and that, those are just two people.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Ed Sullivan.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Ed Sullivan was there.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Um,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>it was a, it was a who's who of society like you wanted to be at this wedding.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Very much like when we saw in our lifetime when we saw the Kate and William wedding.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>And it was so much like celebrities and.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>High ranking people from around the world.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>It was kind of a com, a hodgepodge of both.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>This is exactly what this wedding was, uh and like, and to what Scott</p>
<p></p>
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<p>said, maybe a lot of people didn't want to be photographed or didn't</p>
<p></p>
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<p>want all the spotlight there.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>So you have a difference in how many people at the ceremony than how</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>many people come to the reception.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Oh, yes.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>So because the church only holds 800.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>That's how many people came to the ceremony.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>But then Hammersmith Farm, which is like a horse farm, where do you see a</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>lot of Jacqueline Vier on the horses?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>And they basically have the reception outdoors.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>And they can put all these tables outdoors that 1200 people come to the reception.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>And this is when you first, I mean, I would say it probably starts happening</p>
<p></p>
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<p>before this, but I kind of get the feeling that this is when they first become.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Bigger than their own lives.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>And you know, we're talking a lot about right now in, in Media</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>is John F. Kennedy Jr's wedding.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Right.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>1996 he gets married on an island, a secluded island with 30 people</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>and they keep it very secret.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>But it was still a huge media frenzy.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Yes.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Right.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Not there, but just the, the fact that it happened</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>and I think he really.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Was influenced by what happened to his parents because this is where</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>you really start to see their really pawns even in their own wedding.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:08</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:09</time>
<p>Like Jackie doesn't wear a dress she wants to wear.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Yeah, I have that.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:12</time>
<p>I have that note here.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>So you bring that up and that's one of the facts that I brought up is.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>So there's this, the famous dress, right, designed by am</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:20</time>
<p>Lowe beautiful, beautiful dress.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>I mean it, you can see the pictures.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:24</time>
<p>And if, if for our listeners and our watchers, like I've put pictures of</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:27</time>
<p>her, you know, in her dress at the reception and um, at the wedding ceremony.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>She's absolutely gorgeous.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:33</time>
<p>Her dress looks amazing on her.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>I think you said it something like 50 yards of fabric,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>which is Yes, because it's</p>
<p></p>
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<p>pleated,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>which is crazy.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>So much</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>pleading</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:40</time>
<p>and it's heavy.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:40</time>
<p>But Ann Lowe was, who was a prominent African American designer at the time.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:44</time>
<p>She wasn't really given public credit then, but it, it came out later.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:47</time>
<p>Um, but I guess Jackie actually preferred more, the more sleek.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Kind of French style.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:52</time>
<p>And so she, I guess from what I saw when I looked up, she told</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:56</time>
<p>her Jackie Re reportedly told her French, she looked like a lampshade.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:59</time>
<p>Um, and, you know, kind of like a, a patchwork quilt.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:02</time>
<p>I don't know if that's true.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:03</time>
<p>I'd have to go and, and di dive deep and see, um, and, and that stuff.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:07</time>
<p>But it's interesting.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:09</time>
<p>Like you said, even within their own wedding, it's, Hey, here's</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:14</time>
<p>the dress you're gonna wear.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:15</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:15</time>
<p>So she wants something more sleek.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
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<p>Kind of like what Carolyn Bessette will wear when she marries John F. Kennedy</p>
<p></p>
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<p>Jr. She just wears that plain silk gown.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:24</time>
<p>That also is a fashion iconic dress, but that's what Jackie wants to wear.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:29</time>
<p>But her family's like, how are people gonna.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:32</time>
<p>See that?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:33</time>
<p>Yeah,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:33</time>
<p>you have 800 people.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:34</time>
<p>You need something that has some, some</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:37</time>
<p>presence.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:38</time>
<p>Girth to it.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:39</time>
<p>Yeah, some presence.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:40</time>
<p>And so that's why there's like 50 yards of fabric.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:42</time>
<p>It's pleated, it kind of sticks out.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:44</time>
<p>And I can see where she gets this patch where quilt kind of thing.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:47</time>
<p>'cause it looks like quilting, almost like the design, but it, it stands out.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:53</time>
<p>The dress basically could.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:55</time>
<p>Looks like it could stand on its own without a person in it.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:57</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:57</time>
<p>Right.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:58</time>
<p>And Jackie Kennedy at the time, um, vie Kennedy, she's a, she's small,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:03</time>
<p>she's small, framed, like this dress is really like making her double the size.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:08</time>
<p>Oh, it, but she looks amazing in it.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:10</time>
<p>It, I mean the, the reception pictures, which are where you get</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:13</time>
<p>the most, most of the pictures.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:15</time>
<p>It.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:15</time>
<p>It's just absolutely stunning.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:17</time>
<p>It's, it's storybook.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:18</time>
<p>Picturesque.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:19</time>
<p>Oh, the dress is iconic for sure.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:21</time>
<p>But you can see why her family wanted her to wear something like</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:24</time>
<p>that and kind of forced it upon her.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:27</time>
<p>Like most brides think it's their day.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:30</time>
<p>I decide, well, not in this case.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:32</time>
<p>When you start to think of this American royalty, Camelot, this</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:36</time>
<p>is the first time we're gonna see, like we know John F. Kennedy.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:39</time>
<p>W had a lot of autonomy while his brother was alive, but once his brother was</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:45</time>
<p>killed and he got pushed to the front of the family as their token, like what</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:51</time>
<p>they want to, to move through society.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:53</time>
<p>And so, you know, John F. Kennedy is really like being</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:56</time>
<p>pushed into the spotlight.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:58</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:58</time>
<p>And here he is marrying into society.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:01</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:01</time>
<p>And she is starting to feel, she, I'm sure she felt it beforehand, but</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:05</time>
<p>she's starting to also have this same, like, I don't get the choice this is.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:09</time>
<p>Chosen for me,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:10</time>
<p>it seems to me like this, for the Kennedys, this was the tipping</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:14</time>
<p>point that really brought them into the status that they wanted.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:17</time>
<p>Yes, this was it.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:18</time>
<p>And like I said, it was a see who's who of society at the wedding, A huge</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:22</time>
<p>reception, beautiful photographs.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:25</time>
<p>And it all starts September 12th, 1953, and you can visit that church today.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:30</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:30</time>
<p>And so a couple other interesting facts.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:32</time>
<p>So you talked about the 1200 people that went to reception,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:36</time>
<p>so I guess the receiving line.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:38</time>
<p>Right where you're kind of standing there saying hello to your guests</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:40</time>
<p>was they stood there for three hours and greeted every single person</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:45</time>
<p>that came through three hours.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:47</time>
<p>I know.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:48</time>
<p>Well, you can imagine we, we've been married 20 years and I told Scott when</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:52</time>
<p>we were getting married, everyone wants their moment with the bride and groom.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:55</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:55</time>
<p>Everyone wants that moment to say.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:58</time>
<p>Congratulations.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:58</time>
<p>I</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:58</time>
<p>shook their hand.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:59</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:00</time>
<p>You know, a small anecdote,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:01</time>
<p>and we only had 125 at our wedding.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:03</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:03</time>
<p>You can imagine 1200 people.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:06</time>
<p>Everyone wants their moment.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:07</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:07</time>
<p>With you.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:08</time>
<p>So some other things here, we, I, I kind of took a look at some</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:12</time>
<p>of the facts around their wedding and compared them to modern day.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:15</time>
<p>Norms.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:16</time>
<p>Right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:16</time>
<p>Because I just thought that was interesting.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:18</time>
<p>And so in 1953, the guest list was about 1200 people, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:22</time>
<p>As you mentioned at the reception nowadays, I mean, it's still</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:25</time>
<p>considered large if you're only from anywhere from two to 500.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:28</time>
<p>And that's at the, at, that's at the high end, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:30</time>
<p>Not, not everybody's gonna have 500 people at their wedding.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:33</time>
<p>This wedding had 1200.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:34</time>
<p>The dress back then, it costs about $500.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:38</time>
<p>That was in 53, which in today's money would be almost 6,000.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:42</time>
<p>Now, today there's some brides out there that are spending a hundred</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:46</time>
<p>grand, tens of thousands of dollars.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:48</time>
<p>So that's, but again, iconic picture.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:51</time>
<p>At the time, the venue that was at the Hammersmith farm,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:54</time>
<p>again, that was family estate.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:56</time>
<p>Again, today, people are dropping tons of money, you know, to, to.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:59</time>
<p>Host their wedding reception somewhere.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:02</time>
<p>I'm sure they had to rent everything still in.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:03</time>
<p>Yeah, in catering.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:05</time>
<p>And we don't really do that whole reception line as much anymore.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:08</time>
<p>It's not as common.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:08</time>
<p>Not as common.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:09</time>
<p>What we did is we went to the tables.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:11</time>
<p>Yeah, we, so, and that's what people will do.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:13</time>
<p>They'll get up and walk around.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:14</time>
<p>They won't necessarily stand there at a reception line.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:16</time>
<p>Um, so again, kind of difference in, in media presence, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:21</time>
<p>Back then it was Life Magazine and Local Press.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:23</time>
<p>Today it's all social media stuff.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:25</time>
<p>And then, um, nobody, I couldn't find anywhere online what the total estimated</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:29</time>
<p>cost of the the JFK wedding was.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:32</time>
<p>Right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:33</time>
<p>And then on high, high end weddings, people are spending hundreds of</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:36</time>
<p>thousands, if not a million dollars.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:37</time>
<p>Right.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:38</time>
<p>Not the average person, but we're talking high society type folks.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:41</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:41</time>
<p>So just kind of an interesting comparison to them at the time.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:45</time>
<p>And what I'll call high society or the rich the wealthy are are doing nowadays.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:51</time>
<p>Yeah, they were definitely setting a precedence because it wasn't like society.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:58</time>
<p>People weren't getting married and having huge weddings that was happening.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:02</time>
<p>They just weren't the media frenzy and.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:06</time>
<p>This is a marriage of society and politics and so that that didn't happen as much.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:12</time>
<p>And so this really was setting a precedence for what was going to be.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:15</time>
<p>Again, Camelot, and again, we're talking about this beginning of this</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:20</time>
<p>whole Fair Tale America royalty story.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:25</time>
<p>This is the start of it all, and the church is very historic for Newport.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:30</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:30</time>
<p>And that was another thing going there like they built in around 1828.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:37</time>
<p>So they were talking about how in 2028 they was gonna have their 200</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:41</time>
<p>anniversary, one of these original Newport churches, but also during the Civil War.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:49</time>
<p>The Naval Academy is moved from Annapolis to Newport.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:53</time>
<p>If you know anything about Newport, we've talked about it before.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:55</time>
<p>It has this big naval presence there as where Scott went to graduate</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:58</time>
<p>school, uh, we're we're going back there for more of his training.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:02</time>
<p>Uh, and so they moved.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:05</time>
<p>The Naval Academy there for protection for the North during the Civil War.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:08</time>
<p>And they used this church as their chapel?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:11</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:11</time>
<p>For the Naval Academy.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:12</time>
<p>For the Naval Academy, yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:14</time>
<p>And if you know John F. Kennedy served in the United States Navy, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:17</time>
<p>He used, that's one of the things I say in the video, he says,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:20</time>
<p>with a lot of pride, I can say I served in the United States Navy.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:23</time>
<p>And I just love that about him because of course we can relate to that.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:27</time>
<p>And so to be married in that church, I'm sure he knew that history.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:31</time>
<p>Getting married there as well.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:33</time>
<p>But I just think it's comes kind of full circle that you're a former naval</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:36</time>
<p>officer who's gonna eventually come.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:38</time>
<p>President of the United States is married in a church that once served</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:42</time>
<p>the United States Naval Academy.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:44</time>
<p>Uh, it's a, again, it, it embraces the story.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:48</time>
<p>So they want you to visit, they open the church up for visitors.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:51</time>
<p>It's</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:52</time>
<p>beautiful inside.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:53</time>
<p>It's that classic.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:55</time>
<p>Roman Catholic style stained glass windows and the Oregon has been there for forever.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:01</time>
<p>I think the Oregon's super old.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:02</time>
<p>Yes, it's a beautiful church.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:04</time>
<p>You know, if you're up in the Newport area in the summertime, great, great place</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:07</time>
<p>to swing by and, and visit real quick</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:09</time>
<p>and lots of, uh, stained glass windows and.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:13</time>
<p>I think it's free to visit.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:14</time>
<p>I left a donation so it's there for you.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:17</time>
<p>It's available to you.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:18</time>
<p>I definitely recommend going in there and seeing it 'cause it is just one</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:21</time>
<p>of those awestruck moments of American history that you get to stand there in</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:25</time>
<p>the presence of, uh, of American royalty.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:31</time>
<p>As you stand in the quiet of St. Mary's, the thing that</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:34</time>
<p>strikes you isn't the opulence.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:35</time>
<p>It's the intimacy of the space.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:38</time>
<p>Despite the 1200 guests and media helicopters, at the end of the day,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:42</time>
<p>it was just two people in a wooden pew making a promise in a small.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:46</time>
<p>Seaside Church.</p>
<p></p>
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<p>We call it Camelot now, but in 1953 it was just a beginning.</p>
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<p>And while the marriage would eventually face trials that would</p>
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<p>break the heart of a nation that day in Newport remains frozen in time.</p>
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<p>A perfect golden moment of American royalty before the world changed forever.</p>
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<p>Now next time you're in Newport, take a walk down Spring Street,</p>
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