Bonnie and Clyde | Route 66 Hidden History and Lost Photos

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<p>Imagine pulling into a quiet residential neighborhood in southwest Missouri during</p>
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<p>the height of the Great Depression.</p>
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<p>The year is 1933.</p>
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<p>Route 66 is only seven years old, buzzing with bootleggers, travelers,</p>
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<p>and bank robbers looking for an easy escape across state lines.</p>
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<p>A stylish young gang rents a garage apartment on Oak Ridge Drive.</p>
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<p>For 13 days, five people hole up inside, drinking whiskey, writing poetry,</p>
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<p>playing cards, and spending stolen cash.</p>
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<p>Then, on April 13th, the police close in.</p>
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<p>A five-man team arrives expecting small-time bootleggers, but walk</p>
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<p>straight into a storm of gunfire.</p>
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<p>Two lawmen lose their lives, and the outlaws tear away down the highway,</p>
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<p>escaping into the Missouri fog.</p>
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<p>In their frantic rush to flee, they leave behind clothing,</p>
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<p>jewelry, handwritten poems, and an undeveloped roll of Kodak film.</p>
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<p>Within 48 hours, those photographs are printed in newspapers across the country.</p>
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<p>In a single flash, the obscure Barrow Gang is transformed into</p>
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<p>the most famous outlaw couple in American history: Bonnie and Clyde.</p>
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<p>Welcome to Talk with History.</p>
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<p>One filmmaker, one historian leading history-inspired world</p>
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<p>travels for the curious, the history lovers, and the explorer in us all.</p>
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<p>I'm your host, Scott, here with my wife and historian, Jenn.</p>
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<p>Hello.</p>
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<p>Today, we're continuing our Route 66 deep dive series as we roll down</p>
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<p>the Mother Road to Joplin, Missouri.</p>
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<p>We're tracking down the exact hideout where the Barrow gang staged their</p>
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<p>deadly shootout, and we'll visit the Joplin History and Mineral Museum to</p>
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<p>see the actual artifacts left behind.</p>
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<p>We're taking you to the front door of that historic garage apartment and</p>
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<p>walking through the museum displays where you can see Bonnie's original</p>
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<p>jewelry, the camera model that took those iconic roadside photos, and the</p>
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<p>police records from that fateful day.</p>
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<p>Stick around to the end because we'll reveal the wild story of how Bonnie's</p>
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<p>stolen necklaces ended up in this museum and how the infamous botched</p>
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<p>raid on Route 66 turned two Texas bandits into nationwide legends.</p>
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<p>I'm Scott Bennie, so keep your hands on the wheel and check your rear view mirror.</p>
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<p>We're chasing outlaws down Route 66.</p>
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<p>All right, Jenn.</p>
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<p>So we We're on episode number three or four of our Route 66 series here.</p>
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<p>Yes.</p>
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<p>All right, and as- as heard in the intro, Joplin, Missouri, Bonnie</p>
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<p>and Clyde, very popular topic.</p>
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<p>The video's got some good traction right now, so if you're</p>
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<p>curious, you can go check it out.</p>
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<p>It'll be in</p>
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<p>the- They're always…</p>
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<p>Yeah, they're always a popular-</p>
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<p>They're always a popular topic.</p>
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<p>However, before we get into that topic, I wanna mention that we were recently</p>
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<p>ranked as the number one travel and history podcast on FeedSpot, which is</p>
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<p>like a podcast website data aggregator, and this list just popped up the other</p>
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<p>day, and I saw that we were the number one, we were the number one podcast,</p>
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<p>so I thought that was pretty cool.</p>
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<p>Yeah, congratulations.</p>
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<p>This is a h- a big testimony to your hard work, Scott.</p>
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<p>Yeah, we are the number one history travel podcast.</p>
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<p>So if you're looking for, uh, travel and history combined into one podcast as you</p>
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<p>drive to the location, or if you're just curious about it, we tell you how to</p>
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<p>visit, the history behind it, and just in this case, in Joplin, Missouri, we</p>
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<p>were traveling Route 66 and looking for interesting anecdotes, historical, uh,</p>
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<p>events that took place along Route 66.</p>
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<p>So this is not really, like, on the actual route.</p>
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<p>It's off the route, but it's in the city that it goes through.</p>
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<p>Yeah, so Route 66 goes through Joplin, Missouri, and we've got, at the end of</p>
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<p>this series, we will do kind of like a, an overview, a whole video where you can</p>
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<p>watch one video and see every spot along the way, and Joplin, Missouri is gonna</p>
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<p>be one of those locations that we cover.</p>
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<p>But just off the road, I mean, it was, like, maybe a mile or two- Yeah … is</p>
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<p>this apartment and then the museum.</p>
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<p>So the museum is almost on Route 66.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>I remember we just turned right, and we were back on Route 66 from the</p>
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<p>museum that houses all these artifacts.</p>
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<p>The apartment is off Route 66, but the apartment is available on Airbnb.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>So if you are driving Route 66, and you're like, "I wanna stay</p>
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<p>in Joplin, Mississippi. I wanna stay somewhere cool," you can stay</p>
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<p>in this Bonnie and Clyde garage apartment that they were in in 1933.</p>
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<p>For about two weeks they were there.</p>
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<p>And the thing is, it looks almost like it did then.</p>
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<p>A- and I was surprised because both you and I, we went out, and</p>
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<p>we actually went there first, and then we went to the museum.</p>
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<p>So we went there first.</p>
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<p>There's a little sign out front.</p>
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<p>It talks about the history there.</p>
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<p>And the museum itself actually looks relat- or not the museum.</p>
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<p>The, the apartment itself looks relatively modern, right?</p>
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<p>It's got this kinda stone kinda front to it, the side to it.</p>
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<p>It's got the, the garages and then windows up top, and we're like, "Oh,</p>
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<p>I wonder if they've rebuilt this.</p>
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<p>Maybe this is just the location." But when we went to the museum</p>
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<p>and we saw an old picture from the '30s or '40s, whenever that picture</p>
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<p>was from, it looks exactly like-</p>
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<p>Yeah</p>
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<p>… it did back then.</p>
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<p>So we, what we saw is basically exactly what it looked like.</p>
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<p>Yeah, so it's a- It's located at 3347 1/2 Oak Ridge Drive, uh, and</p>
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<p>its door opens up onto 34th Street.</p>
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<p>Uh, it was built in 1927, and it's this two-story building w- on a</p>
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<p>poured concrete foundation, and it looks like concrete bricks.</p>
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<p>It looks like they probably formed the concrete into,</p>
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<p>like, these concrete bricks.</p>
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<p>It's American Craft style, but, uh, they never, they haven't changed that facade.</p>
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<p>It looks exactly the same if you hold up the pictures.</p>
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<p>The garage doors, of course, have been updated, the windows.</p>
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<p>The front door is different, but everything about the</p>
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<p>outside looks the same.</p>
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<p>And then if you're in the space upstairs, like, that's the space that they were in.</p>
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<p>Um, they rented it.</p>
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<p>So what was also interesting is when we went to Joplin, uh, Museum,</p>
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<p>the guy there gave me the actual receipt, like a copy of the receipt</p>
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<p>of when they rented the building.</p>
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<p>That's cool.</p>
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<p>And I… We'll, we'll put a picture of it up here so you can see it,</p>
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<p>but they rented it April 1st, 1933.</p>
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<p>Uh, and they rented it for $21, and it was supposed to be for</p>
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<p>the entire month they had it for.</p>
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<p>And as they are there, so, so Bonnie and Clyde are both there.</p>
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<p>We're gonna talk about Bonnie and Clyde and how they made their infamy.</p>
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<p>I want people to know, at the time, people don't know Bonnie is</p>
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<p>a part of this gang yet, right?</p>
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<p>They know Clyde Barrow.</p>
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<p>They know his brother, um, Buck, 'cause they're probably</p>
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<p>infamous lawbreakers at the time.</p>
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<p>They've already been in and out of prison.</p>
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<p>Buck has just been released from prison.</p>
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<p>He's on parole.</p>
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<p>Yeah, so they're, they're known, they're known by the, by law enforcement.</p>
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<p>Yes.</p>
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<p>And so Buck is joined by his wife, Blanche.</p>
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<p>They have one other person with them, uh, W.D. Jones.</p>
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<p>And so there's five of them who rent this apartment for a month, and this is</p>
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<p>so they can kinda relax and have a good time and enjoy the fruit of their spoils.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>Uh, and so but they start to get rowdy, and they have drunken card games.</p>
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<p>And, uh, I know Clyde accidentally fires one of his automatic rifles by mistake.</p>
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<p>Oh, I didn't know that.</p>
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<p>And it brings attention to the law in the area.</p>
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<p>They think that they're bootleggers.</p>
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<p>Oh, so that's how it kinda, that's how they, they caught up.</p>
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<p>'Cause I, I- I was thinking about that.</p>
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<p>I was like, "Why would the police show up thinking it was bootleggers?"</p>
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<p>Because they weren't out there trying to sell whiskey or sell illegal</p>
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<p>alcohol or anything like that.</p>
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<p>But that makes more sense if they're just being loud, rowdy, and</p>
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<p>accidentally shooting their guns.</p>
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<p>Yeah, and they're getting drunk, right?</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>I guess they're buying, like, a case of beer a day-</p>
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<p>Yeah</p>
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<p>… for five of them.</p>
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<p>Uh, and so that's when they, the suspicion of the lawmakers come out there.</p>
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<p>So th- there was a raid organized on April 13th, 1933.</p>
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<p>So again, they're not there for barely two weeks, right?</p>
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<p>And that's when, uh, two armed carloads of police pull up, and the gang</p>
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<p>intercepts them with gunfire, right?</p>
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<p>Because they're already an- on the loose and, and they're pulling off</p>
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<p>heists.</p>
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<p>Yeah, they've, they've, they've been robbing banks.</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>So they've got guns and ammunition, right?</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>And, and we'll talk about the pictures here in a little bit, but they're taking</p>
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<p>these pictures while they're here at this, you know, or at least over the course</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:08:44</time>
<p>of, of before the, the police show up.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:08:47</time>
<p>And so in the pictures, there's all these guns and all this stuff, so</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:08:50</time>
<p>they have the weapons to fight back.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:08:51</time>
<p>Yeah, uh, they're kind of taking a break, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:08:54</time>
<p>They're living off their spoils, but, uh, they respond with gunfire.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:08:58</time>
<p>Two policemen are killed in this, uh, rai- th- this raid, one instantly.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:03</time>
<p>One gets injured and then dies later.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:05</time>
<p>And th- what they leave behind in a rush is their clothing, and they leave</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:10</time>
<p>behind an undeveloped roll of film, and they leave behind some weapons and</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:15</time>
<p>things along that nature, and so jewelry.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:18</time>
<p>And so that is kind of what first gets put into the newspaper.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:23</time>
<p>They develop these photographs, and these are the infamous photographs</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:26</time>
<p>of Bonnie with the pistol on her hip with her foot up on the car.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:30</time>
<p>And the cigar.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:31</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:31</time>
<p>The cigar in her mouth, her pushing the, the rifle against Clyde's</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:34</time>
<p>chest, like, holding it, and this is, they don't even know her name yet.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:38</time>
<p>In the paper, they say, "An unidentified female." So d- she hasn't quite gotten to</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:43</time>
<p>that, that status of Bonnie and Clyde yet.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:46</time>
<p>Uh, and what's neat about it is they have Recreations of</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:50</time>
<p>those photographs at the museum.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:52</time>
<p>They have the, the camera that was used to take those photographs, not</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:55</time>
<p>the actual camera, but the model.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:57</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:09:57</time>
<p>But they do have her actual jewelry that was found there.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:02</time>
<p>Um, and I also wanna talk a little bit about if you're a fan of Bonnie and Clyde,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:06</time>
<p>you probably have seen the 1967 movie with Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:10</time>
<p>They do depict this in that movie.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:12</time>
<p>If you saw the 2019 Highwaymen with Kevin Costner and Woody Harrelson, they go to</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:19</time>
<p>this apartment and look at the things- Oh,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:21</time>
<p>I didn't know that</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:22</time>
<p>… to know who they're looking for, and that's when they first</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:24</time>
<p>comment how small Bonnie is.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:26</time>
<p>Oh, and that was something that they brought up in the, at the museum.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:29</time>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:29</time>
<p>That was, like, commented and that's kinda like when they finally</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:32</time>
<p>knew who they were looking for.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:34</time>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:34</time>
<p>Okay.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:34</time>
<p>I mean, she's less than 100 pounds, barely five foot, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:38</time>
<p>Clyde's not that big either, but so you can compare, like, when they stand</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:42</time>
<p>beside each other, like, she's smaller than him, and that's when they first</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:45</time>
<p>make the comment of how small she is.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:47</time>
<p>Mm-hmm.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:47</time>
<p>Uh, they don't have her actual clothing at the museum.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:50</time>
<p>They say the clothing was all given away and donated.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:54</time>
<p>Right.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:54</time>
<p>Uh, but they have what look like the clothing that they got that day.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:58</time>
<p>So you can see kind of the idea.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:10:59</time>
<p>So that means there's probably, like, Bonnie's clothes is</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:03</time>
<p>probably in somebody's attic- Yeah</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:04</time>
<p>in Joplin, Missouri.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:05</time>
<p>Totally.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:05</time>
<p>That's crazy.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:06</time>
<p>And they liked to dress nicer.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:08</time>
<p>So you can see Clyde's wearing suits.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:10</time>
<p>Bonnie's wearing nicer dresses, and she likes the costume jewelry.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:14</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:14</time>
<p>Now, that is the actual jewelry, and, and we'll talk more about how they got that.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:19</time>
<p>That was really cool because they have it right there on display.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:22</time>
<p>So just kind of to, to reset the scene, so we went to the apartment,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:27</time>
<p>filmed out there, and then we went and tracked down this museum.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:30</time>
<p>And this museum is kind of, like, inside a community center.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:32</time>
<p>Very easy to get to.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:34</time>
<p>There was, like, a big train thing going on.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:36</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:36</time>
<p>Like, they were doing, like, a, a train-</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:38</time>
<p>Expo</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:39</time>
<p>… expo type thing.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:40</time>
<p>Mm-hmm.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:40</time>
<p>But they were very kind.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:41</time>
<p>The, if, for the folks watching at the museum, they were very helpful.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:44</time>
<p>They let us in.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:45</time>
<p>The folks that were in the, in that corner of where the museum normally would just</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:49</time>
<p>have their stuff, they had something else sitting out, so the, the people working</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:52</time>
<p>there kinda cleared everything out for us.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:54</time>
<p>And then they l- they just let us kinda film everything.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:57</time>
<p>It was nice.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:57</time>
<p>It was all in one spot.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:11:59</time>
<p>And so this museum, you, you can go see it right now.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:03</time>
<p>If you wanna use the History or Drive app, we'll have it marked</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:06</time>
<p>on the History or Drive app.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:07</time>
<p>In fact, one of our lifetime members put in the private Facegrup, Facebook</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:12</time>
<p>group for lifetime members of the History or, History or Drive app,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:15</time>
<p>he just used our app for a big trip.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:18</time>
<p>And so he went, his name is Barry, and he went through Nebraska,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:22</time>
<p>Missouri, Kansas, and he used our app while he was on his trip.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:25</time>
<p>He already had some stuff preplanned, but as he was out there, he mentioned that</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:30</time>
<p>he'd pull it up and see what else was around in, in his area, and that's exactly</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:34</time>
<p>what we're trying to help, help people do.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:37</time>
<p>So he's a good example of that.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:38</time>
<p>So if, if you're in the Missouri area, you know, re- if you remember</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:42</time>
<p>Route 66, we came down from St. Louis.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:44</time>
<p>We're coming down through Joplin.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:45</time>
<p>We're gonna head our way towards Okla- Kansas … Kansas and Oklahoma.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:48</time>
<p>Um, if you're in that general area, you can pull up the app.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:52</time>
<p>In fact, I have it, it's mapped right now.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:54</time>
<p>If you go to historyordrive.com and you decide to, to try it out,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:12:59</time>
<p>um, you can go see exactly where it is, and you can watch the video.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:03</time>
<p>It's really cool.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:04</time>
<p>It's really cool.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:05</time>
<p>So Bonnie and Clyde- Who are they, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:08</time>
<p>We know them as these infamous rebels, uh, definitely outlaws.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:15</time>
<p>They're definitely not good people.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:17</time>
<p>They are murderers.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:18</time>
<p>Murderers, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:19</time>
<p>So Bonnie Elizabeth Parker meets up with Clyde, um, Chestnut Champion Barrow.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:25</time>
<p>Uh, they are kind of during the Great Depression.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:29</time>
<p>They're during this public enemy era, when you think of 1931 to 1934,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:34</time>
<p>the big gangster movies of the time.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:37</time>
<p>Think of James Cagney in Public Enemy.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:39</time>
<p>They kind of embody that in reality, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:42</time>
<p>They are these people.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:44</time>
<p>Uh, they're, have criminal acts of robbing stores.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:46</time>
<p>They rob banks.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:47</time>
<p>They kidnap people.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:48</time>
<p>They murder people, and their big timeframe is 1932</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:52</time>
<p>till their deaths in 1934.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:54</time>
<p>So they really don't have a big span.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:13:56</time>
<p>It's two years, and this hideout is 1933, in April of '33, and this</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:02</time>
<p>is when these photographs, even the most famous photograph that you will</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:06</time>
<p>see on Wikipedia was one of the ones discovered here in Joplin, Missouri.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:12</time>
<p>Uh, this is when people learn of Bonnie.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:15</time>
<p>So again, she has maybe a year and a half when they know who she is,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:20</time>
<p>a part of this g- this outlaw team.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:23</time>
<p>But because of what they did and the storytelling behind it, the movies</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:28</time>
<p>behind it, they've gone down in notoriety as these famous outlaws.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:32</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:32</time>
<p>Well, and one of the things that I was, when I was kinda prepping for</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:35</time>
<p>this that- That made this a little bit more, I'll say, digestible in the</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:41</time>
<p>public, is the pictures they took.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:44</time>
<p>Sure, there's the ones where they're holding the guns and she's got the</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:46</time>
<p>cigar, but there's also some of just her and Clyde, and they look</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:49</time>
<p>like a young married couple that's traveling across the country.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:54</time>
<p>That's what it looks like.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:55</time>
<p>So people, you can kind of identify with that.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:14:58</time>
<p>So people at the time, they see this young couple, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:02</time>
<p>Clyde holding her i- in, in his arms, and they're standing in front of a car,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:06</time>
<p>like, as if they were traveling somewhere.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:09</time>
<p>So people in an, in a weird way kind of-</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:12</time>
<p>Romanticized it</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:13</time>
<p>… yeah, romanticized it, and they were, they were kinda drawn to that, 'cause</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:15</time>
<p>you can… If you can picture yourself in, in, in someone else's shoes, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:20</time>
<p>Or in this, in this picture, you're more naturally drawn to that.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:23</time>
<p>Now, what we had to kinda keep reminding ourselves, and when you were, when we were</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:28</time>
<p>making the videos, these were bad people.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:30</time>
<p>They killed 12 people.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:31</time>
<p>They were murderers and, and they eventually got what they deserved.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:35</time>
<p>They killed nine officers and three civilians, two at</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:39</time>
<p>the Joplin, Missouri place.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:40</time>
<p>So I want to remind people, Bonnie and Clyde were never married,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:44</time>
<p>because Bonnie was married to someone else the entire time.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:48</time>
<p>So Bonnie is married right before she turns 16 years old to Roy</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:52</time>
<p>Thornton, and Thornton is a bad guy.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:55</time>
<p>They don't spend a lot of time together.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:56</time>
<p>Thornton's in jail, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:15:58</time>
<p>But when Bonnie is killed in May of 1934, uh, she's still wearing the</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:02</time>
<p>wedding ring from that marriage.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:04</time>
<p>They never divorce.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:06</time>
<p>But because she's kind of estranged from him, she meets, uh, Clyde in 1930, this</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:12</time>
<p>is four years after she's been married.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:14</time>
<p>She considers herself married to Clyde.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:17</time>
<p>Okay.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:17</time>
<p>They considered themselves a couple, so she keeps the wedding ring as a token to</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:22</time>
<p>her relationship with Clyde, not because of her real marriage to Roy Thornton.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:27</time>
<p>But technically, they're never married.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:29</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:29</time>
<p>I, so I, so I didn't actually know that, so that was, that's, that's news to me.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:33</time>
<p>Yes, but they very much are romanticized, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:36</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:37</time>
<p>These two people together in love, you know, definitely misguided, but they are</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:43</time>
<p>devoted, and they're willing to put their lives on the line continuously for each</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:48</time>
<p>other, and it becomes very romanticized.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:50</time>
<p>Let's not f- forget all the people they kidnapped- Yeah … and killed and robbed.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:54</time>
<p>So it just becomes a very, uh, glamorized thing.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:16:59</time>
<p>Now, because it's 1930, they're using Route 66, they're using these</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:03</time>
<p>old roads, and because communication doesn't travel as fast, they're able</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:08</time>
<p>to kinda get in and out of places.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:09</time>
<p>But once these photographs come out, once people identify this is Clyde</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:14</time>
<p>Barrow and Bonnie Parker, they're running around with, uh, Clyde's brother and</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:19</time>
<p>his wife and maybe some other people.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:21</time>
<p>From time to time, they had one to five others with them.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:24</time>
<p>It made it harder for them, harder for them to go to hotels, harder</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:28</time>
<p>for them to go to diners, because that was what was in the newspapers.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:32</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:32</time>
<p>That w- was out about them.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:34</time>
<p>So this is the time, too, they can't rent any more garage apartments.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:39</time>
<p>Now they have to camp out.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:41</time>
<p>Now they've got to hide out.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:43</time>
<p>Now they've got to break into locations and stay, and that's when the law</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:47</time>
<p>really does start to catch up with them.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:49</time>
<p>And they are ambushed in May of 1934 right outside of, I think</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:55</time>
<p>it's Gibson, Gibsonland, Louisiana.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:17:58</time>
<p>And that's May 23rd, 1934.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:00</time>
<p>And what's so interesting about the lawmen that catch up with them, and</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:03</time>
<p>again, the really great movie, Highwaymen, 2019, with Kevin Costner and Woody</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:07</time>
<p>Harrelson do, does a great job of this.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:09</time>
<p>Uh, they're not gonna take 'em alive.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:12</time>
<p>They're just not.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:13</time>
<p>They don't even think about it as an option.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:15</time>
<p>They just are gonna make sure that they put an end to Bonnie and Clyde.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:19</time>
<p>So if you remember, the ambush is just, their car is riddled with bullets.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:23</time>
<p>The bodies are riddled with bullets.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:25</time>
<p>Only Clyde and Bonnie are in the car, and they make sure that they have ended</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:30</time>
<p>this crime spree of these two people.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:33</time>
<p>Which, and again, almost romanticizes them at the end-</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:36</time>
<p>Yeah … because they die together.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:38</time>
<p>Uh, they're brought back to their original, uh, city right</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:42</time>
<p>outside of, uh, Dallas, Texas.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:45</time>
<p>And what's interesting is Bonnie- Would write this poetry.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:49</time>
<p>And one of the poems is actually found there that she writes called The Story of</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:52</time>
<p>Suicide Sal, which is not her love story about Bonnie and Clyde where she said the</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:57</time>
<p>two of them will be buried side by side.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:18:59</time>
<p>In the end, Bonnie and Clyde are not buried side by side.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:02</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:02</time>
<p>Lots of people have been to their graves.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:04</time>
<p>Uh, there were a lot of spectators who came to where their bodies were, came to</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:10</time>
<p>those funeral homes, tried to get pieces of clothing, tried to get photographs.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:14</time>
<p>Uh-</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:15</time>
<p>Wow</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:15</time>
<p>… it was crazy.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:16</time>
<p>And so their families, especially Bonnie Parker's family,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:19</time>
<p>wanted no s- no part of that.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:23</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:23</time>
<p>And so they buried them separately.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:24</time>
<p>Uh, and you can visit their graves today.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:28</time>
<p>But what's very interesting about this hideout, again, that it looks</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:31</time>
<p>the same, that it's really a part of American history in getting these</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:35</time>
<p>first photographs of Bonnie and Clyde.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:36</time>
<p>This is the first place that actually cements Bonnie's part-</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:40</time>
<p>Yeah</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:40</time>
<p>in this outlaw couple.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:42</time>
<p>But when you see those actual necklaces, there's something</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:47</time>
<p>about that when you're there.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:48</time>
<p>They have the door from the upstairs.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:51</time>
<p>There's a door.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:52</time>
<p>They have the original door, and they have a model of the, of the</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:19:57</time>
<p>rifle that Body- Bonnie's holding.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:00</time>
<p>Now, like I said, they confiscated that rifle in the house, and that rifle was</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:04</time>
<p>won in an auction and put on display in the pawn shop in Galena, Kansas.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:10</time>
<p>Yep.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:11</time>
<p>So I want people to realize Joplin, Missouri is right on the</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:14</time>
<p>border to Galena, Kansas of those 13 miles of Route 66 in Kansas.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:19</time>
<p>Yep.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:20</time>
<p>So you're crossing the border right there, and somebody who won that, uh,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:24</time>
<p>rifle in auction put it up for display in a pawn shop right along Route 66.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:30</time>
<p>So if you wanna see the, uh, the apo- the apartment, you wanna go see the</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:35</time>
<p>artifacts at the museum, you can drive right over to the pawn shop in Galena,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:40</time>
<p>it's right along Route 66, and see the shotgun from those famous photographs.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:44</time>
<p>Yeah, and there's other stuff to see in Galena too, 'cause that's where</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:46</time>
<p>they have the, the cars on the route.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:48</time>
<p>Mm-hmm.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:48</time>
<p>Uh, cars on the route, so they've got, like, an example of Tow Mater.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:52</time>
<p>Yep.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:52</time>
<p>Right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:52</time>
<p>That it helped inspire the movie Cars and stuff.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:54</time>
<p>Like, so there's other stuff in Galena, Kansas, 'cause it, Route</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:57</time>
<p>66 goes right through there.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:20:59</time>
<p>And so if you're going through, if you're driving Route 66 from Joplin through</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:03</time>
<p>Galena, Kansas, and you're gonna stop, and I think that'll be one of the, the points</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:07</time>
<p>on, in History of Drive is Galena, Kansas.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:10</time>
<p>You can also, if it's open, it wasn't open when we went over,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:13</time>
<p>um, you can also go into the pawn shop and see, see that rifle.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:16</time>
<p>Yes, and what's neat, too, is they have the original car door of the lawmen that</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:23</time>
<p>come there, uh, to stop Bonnie and Clyde.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:26</time>
<p>Uh, the two men that are killed there are Newton County Constable John,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:30</time>
<p>uh, Wesley Herringman, and Joplin Police Detective Harry McGinnis.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:35</time>
<p>Uh, so their pictures are both there on the wall.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:37</time>
<p>We show them in the video.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:39</time>
<p>Uh, they're among the 12 others that are killed by Bonnie and Clyde.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:43</time>
<p>But when we talk about the necklaces and how they got these necklaces.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:46</time>
<p>So this was pretty cool, and I didn't think about it when we went</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:49</time>
<p>in there, 'cause I just thought that they were examples, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:52</time>
<p>Just kinda like the, the weapon that they have on display.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:55</time>
<p>It's an, it's an example of what, what Bonnie had.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:57</time>
<p>Or the camera is an</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:58</time>
<p>example.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:21:58</time>
<p>Or the, the camera, and the c- it's not the actual camera itself, right?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:02</time>
<p>And actually, the camera type for all my fellow video/photo nerd friends,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:06</time>
<p>um, is a Kodak Brownie box camera.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:09</time>
<p>So that's the kind of camera that they used.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:11</time>
<p>But that's what's on display, and if you watch the video, and I'll</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:13</time>
<p>put clips over of this if you're watching the video version of this,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:16</time>
<p>um, you can see it right there.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:18</time>
<p>And so it shows some of the photos and s- and stuff like that.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:21</time>
<p>But then you're looking at the necklaces, and I'm taking, you know, B-roll of</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:24</time>
<p>the necklaces and things like that, and I didn't think about, like, whether</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:26</time>
<p>or not they were the actual ones.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:28</time>
<p>And then the guy who kind of helps run the museum, he's former Navy.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:31</time>
<p>Mm-hmm.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:31</time>
<p>I can't remember his name off the top of my head.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:33</time>
<p>If I could remember, I, I'd, I'd mention it.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:35</time>
<p>But, uh- He comes up and he's like, "Hey, did you know those are the actual</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:40</time>
<p>necklaces that, that Bonnie left in the apartment?" And we're like, "What?</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:44</time>
<p>How did that happen?"</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:46</time>
<p>So he tells the story that the detective who took them as evidence, and they were</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:50</time>
<p>in the evidence room for a very long time, decided to give them to his girlfriend.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:54</time>
<p>So</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:54</time>
<p>he took them out of evidence and gave them to his girlfriend.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:22:57</time>
<p>And then the girlfriend's granddaughter, who inherited them,</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:01</time>
<p>contacted the museum and said, "I don't want anyone to get in trouble.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:06</time>
<p>I don't want to get rid of these.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:07</time>
<p>I know they're important.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:08</time>
<p>Would you like to have them?" And he said, "Absolutely."</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:12</time>
<p>So she gave them over, she gave the custody over, and not wanting to get</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:16</time>
<p>anybody in trouble or anything like that, so they have the original necklaces</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:21</time>
<p>that were Bonnie Parker's necklaces.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:23</time>
<p>And it's costume jewelry.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:24</time>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:24</time>
<p>But super cool.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:26</time>
<p>Of the era, the 1930s, that original stuff that she would wear.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:29</time>
<p>And you could tell she definitely liked to dress up, uh, but it's</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:33</time>
<p>super neat to see them there.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:35</time>
<p>They also have the Boston Globe on the wall, a recreation of the newspaper- Yeah</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:39</time>
<p>… with those first original photographs printed, and it says, "Clyde Barrow beside</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:45</time>
<p>an unidentified female." So this is how you know… I mean, within a year, this</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:49</time>
<p>is April 1933, they're killed May 1934.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:52</time>
<p>Within a year she's gonna become famous and they're- Yeah, a household name</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:56</time>
<p>and they're gonna become famous as a, a, a duo.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:23:59</time>
<p>Uh, and but their lifespan is not very long here.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:24:03</time>
<p>Uh, but it's super neat to go there, tell that story.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:24:06</time>
<p>It's such an interesting part of American history.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:24:08</time>
<p>It's on Route 66.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:24:10</time>
<p>Uh, you can stay in the location.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:24:12</time>
<p>The o- location looks almost the same today.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:24:14</time>
<p>You can just stand there with these artifacts of American history and</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:24:17</time>
<p>Bonnie and Clyde, uh, before you hit Kansas, uh, along the way.</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:24:22</time>
<p>So it was neat to do, and, uh, thank you to the museum for allowing</p>
<p></p>
<cite>Speaker:</cite>
<time>00:24:25</time>
<p>us such access to those things.</p>
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<p>Yeah, super fun.</p>
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<p>As you leave the quiet streets of Joplin and look back at the unassuming</p>
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<p>apartment on Oak Ridge Drive, it's wild to think about how much history</p>
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<p>turned on a single afternoon.</p>
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<p>13 days of laying low ended with two fallen officers, a frantic escape</p>
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<p>down Route 66, and a forgotten roll of Kodak film that changed everything.</p>
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<p>Standing in the Joplin History Museum in front of Bonnie's actual necklaces</p>
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<p>and those famous newspaper clippings reminds us that the glamorized</p>
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<p>mythology of outlaws was built on real tragedy, real sacrifice, and</p>
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<p>a fast road with no good way out.</p>
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<p>Our Route 66 centennial journey continues across state lines.</p>
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<p>In our next episodes, we roll straight into Oklahoma City to</p>
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<p>explore the legendary halls and Western heritage of the National</p>
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<p>Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum.</p>
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<p>Episode researched by Jennifer Bennie.</p>
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